The Toast

Dubrovnik Smash Burger: Monday, November 10th, 2025

November 10, 2025

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  • Co-host Shannon Ford, who recently became a mother, and Claudia Oshry are finding that new motherhood topics are currently all-consuming and difficult to avoid discussing on *The Toast*. 
  • Shannon Ford revealed that she initially named her baby Goldie but later changed it to Daisy after consulting a baby name book with her husband, James. 
  • Kris Jenner's 70th birthday party, themed '0070' and held at Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez's home, was an A-list event attended by numerous celebrities, including Bruno Mars as the performer. 
  • The launch of Shay Mitchell's toddler skincare line, Rini, sparked significant public backlash due to concerns over promoting unrealistic beauty standards to very young children. 
  • Kim Kardashian publicly confirmed she did not pass the bar exam on her latest attempt but remains determined to continue studying and pursuing her goal of becoming a lawyer. 
  • The hosts expressed exhaustion over the constant need for celebrities like Kim Kardashian to prove their intelligence and business acumen beyond their established fame. 

Segments

Co-hosts Welcome and Mama Talk
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(00:00:03)
  • Key Takeaway: Claudia Oshry and Shannon Ford are navigating new motherhood, leading to frequent discussions about baby schedules and related topics.
  • Summary: Shannon Ford, wearing a Gucci crop top, joins Claudia Oshry, noting their shared experience as new mothers whose babies are about three months apart. They acknowledge a tendency to talk excessively about ’new mama things’ like nap schedules, despite trying to cover broader news. Shannon expressed concern about bothering Claudia with breastfeeding questions, but both agree on the need to share this journey’s knowledge.
Infant Formula Recall Alert
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(00:04:04)
  • Key Takeaway: Listeners who use By Heart Infant Formula should immediately check their lot numbers due to a recall announced over the weekend.
  • Summary: Claudia Oshry felt a responsibility to alert listeners about a By Heart Infant Formula recall that occurred over the weekend. By Heart is one of The Toast’s biggest sponsors, and listeners using the product should cross-reference their batch numbers. This announcement was briefly interrupted by an Instacart delivery requiring a signature.
Breastfeeding Oversupply Journey
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  • Key Takeaway: Shannon Ford experienced a significant drop in milk production after her body regulated from being an oversupplier, causing frustration for her baby who was used to a fast flow.
  • Summary: Shannon described herself as an ‘oversupplier’ who felt ‘blessed’ with a strong flow, which her daughter enjoyed. When her milk regulated to a normal infant need level, her daughter became frustrated because the flow was no longer as intense. She emphasized the importance of remembering that ‘being a baby is really hard’ when dealing with these feeding adjustments.
Singing Voice and Japanese Lessons
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  • Key Takeaway: Shannon Ford learned the Japanese version of ‘Head, Shoulders, Knees, and Toes’ in elementary and middle school because her South Carolina town taught Japanese instead of Spanish.
  • Summary: Shannon demonstrated her singing voice, which Claudia deemed surprisingly good, by singing the Japanese version of ‘Head, Shoulders, Knees, and Toes’ (‘Atama, kata, hiza, tsumasaki’). She explained that her small town in Gilbert, South Carolina, had a Japanese instructor instead of a Spanish teacher during her early schooling. This led to her being unprepared when high school switched the required language to Spanish.
Navigating Public Scrutiny
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(00:09:47)
  • Key Takeaway: Claudia Oshry chose not to respond to public backlash regarding comments made by Lauren Bostic during their joint podcast appearance, relying on the fact that her own statements were benign (like eating sushi while pregnant).
  • Summary: Claudia addressed the fallout from her episode with Lauren Bostic, noting that Lauren was unbothered by the ‘cancellation’ attempts, which helped Claudia remain calm. Claudia was frustrated by people attributing Bostic’s comments to her, especially since some of the controversial topics were not even discussed on their shared episode. She stressed the importance of consuming only content that makes one feel good, advising listeners to block content that causes ire.
Baby Naming Process Revealed
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(00:13:48)
  • Key Takeaway: Shannon Ford changed her baby’s name from the initially favored Goldie to Daisy after realizing Goldie might be too trendy and confirming Daisy’s appeal using a physical baby name book.
  • Summary: Shannon revealed that she and her husband, James, settled on Daisy after initially planning to use Goldie, which James called out during their baby moon, causing an argument. To finalize the decision, Shannon forced James to go through a physical ‘A Thousand Baby Names’ book from Amazon, where Daisy stood out as an English name associated with The Great Gatsby. Daisy is the first name, while the middle name, Patricia, honors Shannon’s grandmother.
Future Sibling Gender Preferences
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  • Key Takeaway: Having had a girl first, Shannon Ford expressed a preference for having another girl next to have sisters close in age, while Claudia Oshry noted that having a boy first makes the next gender choice more flexible.
  • Summary: Claudia stated that if she had a girl first, she would wish for a younger sister, contrasting this with having a boy first, which allows for either gender next. Shannon agreed, noting that having a younger brother after an older sister might result in a ’little dweeby brother.’ They both expressed excitement about the possibility of their future children being close in age.
Sponsor Reads and Ad Breaks
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  • Key Takeaway: The podcast features advertisements for Amazon Eero Wi-Fi systems, Saks for holiday shopping, Dibs Beauty multitasking makeup, Legacy Box memory digitization, Minted holiday cards, the HBO Max show I Love LA, and Quo (formerly OpenPhone) business communications.
  • Summary: The hosts transitioned into the main news segment after promoting several sponsors, including Eero for reliable Wi-Fi and Saks for easy holiday shopping. They also highlighted Dibs Beauty’s popular, time-saving makeup products and Legacy Box’s Black Friday deal for digitizing old media before Christmas. Further ads promoted Minted’s free recipient addressing service for holiday cards, the new HBO Max comedy I Love LA, and Quo’s AI-enhanced business phone system.
Kelsea Ballerini Reunion and Song Analysis
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(00:32:26)
  • Key Takeaway: Kelsea Ballerini and Chase Stokes were spotted holding hands in Dubrovnik, Croatia, shortly after she released her new song which details her conflicting feelings about career versus motherhood.
  • Summary: Kelsea Ballerini and Chase Stokes were seen holding hands in Dubrovnik, suggesting they are back together nearly two months after their split, coincidentally near a location mentioned in the episode title. Claudia was shocked by the song’s lyrics revealing Ballerini’s past admission that she was unsure about having children due to her career ambitions and unstable childhood. The song explores the jealousy between a career-focused woman and a mother enjoying family life, a duality Shannon relates to in content creation.
Quo AI Phone Agent Ad
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(00:44:38)
  • Key Takeaway: Quo offers AI agents for lead qualification and call routing, ensuring businesses remain connected after hours.
  • Summary: Quo’s AI agents can answer calls, qualify leads, and route calls to the correct person, even outside of business hours. Over 90,000 businesses utilize Quo to maintain professionalism and connectivity. New users can receive 20% off their first six months using the code ’toast’ at quo.com, and existing number porting is free.
Little Spoon Meal Delivery Ad
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(00:45:21)
  • Key Takeaway: Little Spoon delivers pediatrician-approved, real food meals for babies, toddlers, and big kids, simplifying parenthood meal planning.
  • Summary: Little Spoon provides convenient, healthy meal solutions made with real ingredients, containing no artificial flavors or sweeteners. They offer a wide range of options including baby’s first food, toddler meals, teen meals, snacks, and pouches. Listeners can get 50% off their first online order by visiting littlespoon.com/toast50 and using the code ’toast50'.
Shay Mitchell Toddler Skincare Backlash
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(00:46:49)
  • Key Takeaway: Shay Mitchell’s new toddler skincare line, Rini, faces intense criticism for potentially accelerating unrealistic beauty standards for young children.
  • Summary: Actress and businesswoman Shay Mitchell launched Rini, a skincare line developed for children ages three and up, co-founded with Esther Song. The brand name Rini is the Korean word for children, and the products include face masks shaped like animals. While some argue it offers a safe way for kids to mimic parental routines, critics find the concept dystopian and horrifying.
Kim Kardashian Bar Exam Update
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(00:52:44)
  • Key Takeaway: Kim Kardashian failed her latest attempt at the bar exam but views the setback as fuel, continuing her apprenticeship-based legal studies.
  • Summary: Kim Kardashian stated she is ’not a lawyer yet’ but remains determined to pass the bar exam, emphasizing that falling short is ‘fuel.’ The hosts noted that failing the bar is not uncommon for successful lawyers and questioned the necessity of her intense public study schedule given her billionaire status. Her current path involves an apprenticeship after passing the ‘baby bar.’
Rachel Matthews Halloween Costume Story
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(00:56:11)
  • Key Takeaway: Actress Rachel Lynn Matthews dressed as Katy Perry, including mimicking her space flight pose, while posing with Orlando Bloom at a Halloween party.
  • Summary: Rachel Lynn Matthews dressed in a blue spacesuit and black wig to mimic Katy Perry’s look from her Blue Origin space flight, including kissing the floor and using the phrase ’take up space.’ She was later photographed with Orlando Bloom, who was dressed as a skeleton. The hosts speculated that Bloom likely did not recognize the specific Katy Perry costume reference.
Kayla Nicole Twitter Controversy
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(01:00:33)
  • Key Takeaway: Kayla Nicole, Travis Kelce’s ex-girlfriend, deactivated her Twitter account after Swifties discovered old, highly homophobic tweets while criticizing her Halloween costume.
  • Summary: Kayla Nicole faced backlash for a Halloween costume, which led her to tweet ‘protect black women always,’ prompting users to investigate her social media history. This investigation uncovered several homophobic and anti-Black tweets from her past. The hosts reflected on the danger of old social media posts resurfacing, especially for public figures.
Breastfeeding Hunger & Name Choices
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(01:02:12)
  • Key Takeaway: Breastfeeding mothers experience extreme thirst and hunger, often needing to eat more than during pregnancy to maintain milk supply.
  • Summary: Shannon Ford confirmed that breastfeeding causes intense thirst, requiring constant water intake, and leads to hunger levels exceeding those experienced during pregnancy. She noted the difficulty of remembering to eat enough to maintain supply, sometimes noticing a drop in milk output if she forgets. The hosts also briefly discussed the difficulty of choosing baby names, specifically mentioning the names Daisy and Ruby.