The Toast

How Suzy Seas It with Suzy Weiss: Monday, November 17th, 2025

November 17, 2025

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  • Suzy Weiss, co-hosting *The Toast* with Claudia Oshry, discussed her recent professional success with The Free Press being acquired by Paramount. 
  • The conversation heavily featured commentary on the current state of reality television, particularly Bravo franchises and the success of *Secret Lives of Mormon Wives*. 
  • The hosts debated the cultural shift surrounding lab-grown diamonds versus natural diamonds, with Suzy sharing insights from her reporting on the diamond district. 
  • The hosts express strong skepticism regarding the reconciliation between Teresa Giudice and her feud partner, viewing it as fraudulent and motivated by the show's financial needs, contrasting Teresa's 'victimless' crime with Jen Shah's defrauding of the elderly. 
  • Kathy Hilton's wealth insulates her from scrutiny regarding minor mishaps like wearing a jacket with a security tag still attached, unlike other housewives whose precarious finances might suggest theft. 
  • The hosts debate the complex legacy of Britney Spears post-conservatorship, questioning whether her current erratic behavior is truly 'freedom' or a continuation of underlying issues, and they touch upon the ethical dilemma of consuming art made by disgraced individuals like R. Kelly and Michael Jackson. 

Segments

Co-Host Introduction and Hair Talk
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(00:00:25)
  • Key Takeaway: Suzy Weiss’s return to The Toast featured a discussion contrasting her previous ‘curly hair’ look with her current ‘New York blowout’ style.
  • Summary: Suzy Weiss returned to co-host The Toast after a previous appearance where she had curly hair, which she attributed to a stressful experience at a dry bar. The hosts contrasted this with the current, sleek ‘New York blowout’ style, comparing it to the ‘Utah hair’ of Mormon Wives.
The Free Press Acquisition
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(00:03:21)
  • Key Takeaway: The Free Press, co-founded by Suzy Weiss, Barry Weiss, and Nellie Bull, was recently acquired by Paramount.
  • Summary: Suzy Weiss confirmed that The Free Press was acquired by Paramount, a major event that made it into the show’s ‘fast five’ segment. Suzy noted that despite the acquisition, her daily life, including taking the subway home, has not significantly changed.
Traditional Views on Engagement Rings
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(00:04:27)
  • Key Takeaway: Suzy Weiss holds a traditional view that women should not propose to men or buy engagement rings for them.
  • Summary: Suzy expressed a strong personal stance against modern feminist tropes like women proposing or buying rings for men, stating she would give a book one star if the female character proposed. This personal view contrasted with the discussion that followed about modern diamond alternatives.
Lab-Grown Diamond Market Shift
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  • Key Takeaway: Lab-grown diamonds, being a commodity without a cartel controlling price, are driving down the value of natural diamonds.
  • Summary: Suzy’s reporting on lab-grown diamonds highlighted that they are pure carbon and lack the price control previously maintained by De Beers’ cartel over natural diamonds. This influx has flooded the market, causing natural diamond prices to drop, and older generations are reportedly buying lab-grown stones to keep up with younger buyers.
Rachel Zoe Joining RHOBH
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(00:09:50)
  • Key Takeaway: Stylist Rachel Zoe, known for her Bravo show, is joining the cast of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills following her divorce.
  • Summary: Rachel Zoe is joining The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills after divorcing Roger, and her history with Brad Goreski suggests she understands reality TV dynamics. Claudia Oshry believes Zoe will be a great addition because she knows the game, unlike some current housewives who are susceptible to poor editing.
Hulu’s Reality TV Dominance
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  • Key Takeaway: Hulu is currently dominating the reality TV landscape with shows like Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, while Netflix’s offerings have stagnated.
  • Summary: Hulu is currently the home for high-quality reality content, including Love Thy Neighbor, The Kardashians, and Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Netflix’s reality shows, like Love is Blind, are criticized for resting on the laurels of their first seasons without evolving.
Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Analysis
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(00:15:46)
  • Key Takeaway: The Mormon Wives are credited with elevating the standard of reality television, forcing other shows to improve their content.
  • Summary: The Mormon Wives are praised for their hard work, which has raised the bar for reality TV, making shows like the previous season of The Real Housewives of New York seem dull by comparison. Jesse’s handling of her affair revelation, including using a lie detector test, showcased her professional reality TV skills.
Vicki Gunvalson’s RHOC Return
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(00:33:36)
  • Key Takeaway: Vicki Gunvalson was offered her orange back to return to The Real Housewives of Orange County during the BravoCon taping.
  • Summary: Andy Cohen surprised Vicki Gunvalson on stage at BravoCon by offering her a spot back on The Real Housewives of Orange County, which she accepted. Claudia Oshry noted that the OC franchise was unique in saving itself from decline by bringing back OGs like Heather Dubrow before it fell off a cliff like New Jersey or New York.
Teresa Giudice Feud Resolution Skepticism
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(00:40:09)
  • Key Takeaway: Claudia Oshry expressed strong skepticism that the reported reconciliation between Teresa Giudice and her sister-in-law Melissa Gorga is genuine, viewing it as a tactic to save the show.
  • Summary: Teresa and Melissa reportedly hugged at the Bravo Bazaar, leading to speculation that their feud is over, but Claudia is not buying the reconciliation. The Real Housewives of New Jersey has been put on indefinite hiatus because the main cast members refuse to film together, potentially costing Teresa significant income.
The Nader Sisters Show Recommendation
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  • Key Takeaway: The Nader sisters’ reality show on Hulu documents their transition from a strict, religious upbringing to the demanding influencer lifestyle in New York City.
  • Summary: The show follows four sisters, led by model Brooks Nader, as they navigate giving up former lives for the influencer world in a shared NYC apartment. A major storyline involves Brooks using Ozempic to lose weight for a Maxim cover shoot, leading to fainting spells, which Claudia compared to a classic Full House episode.
Teresa Giudice/Jen Shah Comparison
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(00:42:13)
  • Key Takeaway: Teresa Giudice’s crime of stealing from the government is viewed as less egregious than Jen Shah’s fraud against the elderly and vulnerable communities.
  • Summary: Teresa Giudice’s husband went to jail, and she served time for his crimes, which involved stealing from the government. The hosts contrast this with Jen Shah’s crimes, which involved defrauding the elderly and vulnerable. This difference in victim impact leads the hosts to dislike Jen Shah more than Teresa Giudice.
Andy Cohen’s Reaction to Feud
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  • Key Takeaway: Andy Cohen was visibly ‘done’ with the fraudulent nature of the Teresa/Joe feud reconciliation, hoping it was genuine but suspecting it was purely for the show’s benefit.
  • Summary: Andy Cohen was asked about the reconciliation between the feuding parties at a red carpet event. He displayed clear emotion, indicating he was not buying the sincerity of the makeup. He expressed hope that the reconciliation was for the individuals and not just for money or the show.
Kathy Hilton Security Tag Incident
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(00:43:37)
  • Key Takeaway: Kathy Hilton’s extreme wealth means forgetting to remove a security tag from an expensive jacket is interpreted as an oversight, not theft, unlike how it would be perceived for other housewives.
  • Summary: Kathy Hilton was seen wearing a $1,195 Alice + Olivia jacket with the security tag still attached. The hosts believe she likely received the jacket for free due to connections and that the incident was an assistant’s oversight. Her immense wealth prevents the assumption of theft, contrasting with the precarious finances of other housewives.
Kyle and Kathy Sister Dynamic
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(00:45:01)
  • Key Takeaway: Kathy Hilton’s effortless popularity on the show contrasts sharply with Kyle Richards’ history of strained sister relationships, potentially putting Kyle in a difficult position.
  • Summary: The hosts analyze the sister dynamics within the Hilton/Richards family, noting that Kathy is beloved without trying, while Kyle dealt with issues from her sister Kim related to loyalty. Kyle previously created a scripted show based on their mother, which caused Kim and Kathy to stop speaking to her for years because they felt she was airing dirty laundry.
Racketon Holiday Savings Ad
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(00:47:05)
  • Key Takeaway: Rakuten allows users to stack cash back offers on top of existing store sales, maximizing savings during the holiday shopping season.
  • Summary: Rakuten is promoted as a way to earn cash back at popular stores like Macy’s, Ulta, and Nike. Users can stack Rakuten’s cash back percentage on top of a store’s sale price for ‘savings on savings.’ Members have earned over $4.6 billion in cash back, which can be redeemed via PayPal, check, or gift cards.
Caraway Non-Toxic Cookware Ad
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(00:48:33)
  • Key Takeaway: Switching to Caraway’s non-toxic cookware helps consumers avoid ingesting microplastics released from conventional PTFE-coated pans and plastic leftovers.
  • Summary: Caraway offers non-toxic pots, pans, bakeware, and food storage containers, promoting a healthier kitchen environment. Over 70% of cooking pans sold in America are coated with PTFE, which can release microplastics when heated. Listeners can receive up to 20% off by visiting carawayhome.com/slash toasters.
Nature’s Sunshine Brain Edge Ad
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(00:49:57)
  • Key Takeaway: Nature’s Sunshine Brain Edge is a plant-powered drink mix combining yerba mate with nootropics to provide sustained focus and memory support without a caffeine crash.
  • Summary: Brain Edge supports focus, clarity, and cognitive performance using hand-harvested yerba mate sourced by indigenous communities. The product delivers smooth, sustained energy without the jitters or crash associated with typical caffeinated products. New customers can receive 20% off their first order plus free shipping using code toast at naturesunshine.com.
Britney Spears/Kardashian Sleepover
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(00:51:19)
  • Key Takeaway: The hosts question the sincerity of Britney Spears’ post-conservatorship freedom, noting that her current erratic behavior, including dancing with knives, is being encouraged by some fans.
  • Summary: Britney Spears shared a video of a sleepover with Kim and Khloé Kardashian, which the hosts found concerning given her history. They debated whether she should have been freed, concluding that while the conservatorship was abusive, her current actions are also troubling. The hosts also raised the complicated issue of whether music created under duress, like some of Britney’s work, should still be consumed.
Kim K’s Bar Exam Efforts
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(00:56:27)
  • Key Takeaway: Kim Kardashian failed the California Bar Exam on her first attempt after passing the baby bar, but her determination suggests she will continue pursuing law.
  • Summary: Kim Kardashian passed the baby bar exam but failed the full California Bar Exam on her first attempt. She is pursuing law through an apprenticeship program rather than traditional law school. The hosts believe her determination means she will likely pass on a subsequent attempt.
Kevin Federline’s Allegations
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(00:54:15)
  • Key Takeaway: Kevin Federline, as the active parent for years, is believed by the hosts regarding his allegations that Britney Spears used cocaine while breastfeeding their children.
  • Summary: Kevin Federline has been the active father for the past two decades, leading the hosts to give some credence to his claims, despite his perceived thirst for attention. He alleged that Britney Spears used cocaine while breastfeeding their children, an accusation the hosts found shocking. The hosts acknowledge that both the system around Britney and her own mental state were broken.
Millie Bobby Brown Parent Dynamics
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(01:02:07)
  • Key Takeaway: A viral video highlighted the physical burden placed on new mothers, showing Millie Bobby Brown carrying a heavy car seat while her husband carried nothing.
  • Summary: Millie Bobby Brown and her husband were filmed exiting a car, with her carrying the heavy Duna car seat (weighing 38 pounds empty) and diaper bag, while her husband carried nothing. A subsequent video showed her husband struggling with the car seat, leading to jokes that he would now be forced to carry it consistently. The hosts emphasized the importance of a partner being physically capable of handling such manual labor, like carrying a Duna.
YouTube TV/Disney Dispute Resolution
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(01:03:42)
  • Key Takeaway: The recent dispute between YouTube TV and Disney has ended, restoring access to ESPN, ABC, and other Disney-owned channels for YouTube TV subscribers.
  • Summary: The contract dispute between YouTube TV (a cable replacement service) and Disney resulted in subscribers temporarily losing access to channels like ESPN and ABC. This situation represented a ‘rebundling of the unbundling’ trend in media consumption. The agreement has been reached, meaning the channels are now back on the YouTube TV platform.
Abolish Bachelorette Parties
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(01:12:49)
  • Key Takeaway: The current trend of elaborate, consumerist weddings and sponsored bachelorette parties is reaching a saturation point, suggesting these events should be abolished.
  • Summary: The hosts argue that the escalating cost and consumerism surrounding engagements, weddings, and pre-wedding events like bachelorette parties are excessive. They note that for influencers, the content often precedes the actual enjoyment of the event. Having attended multiple weddings recently, the host felt that the obligation to travel and participate in these large events can strain relationships.
Suzy Weiss’s Current Work
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(01:07:18)
  • Key Takeaway: Suzy Weiss is researching the emerging ‘sea economy’ as the next frontier for investment, technology, and geopolitical conflict, similar to the space race.
  • Summary: Suzy Weiss is working on a story arguing that the sea is the new space, predicting significant economic activity like drug trade and mining will occur underwater. She notes that the vastness of the ocean is demonstrated by the inability to locate MH370. She also believes that World War III might take place on the high seas, potentially involving sabotage of undersea internet cables.