The Toast

Jobbing Our Love: Wednesday, October 15th, 2025

October 15, 2025

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  • Claudia Oshry expressed a temporary dislike for Los Angeles, missing her dog Romeo, prompting Jackie Oshry to advise a trip to the ocean for a positive mindset shift. 
  • The hosts discussed the recent Victoria Beckham documentary, noting its focus on her fashion brand and lack of transparency regarding the Spice Girls' breakup and her relationship with Nicola and Brooklyn Peltz Beckham. 
  • The hosts reacted positively to the news that Tayshia Adams and Tyler Cameron will judge the HGTV 'Bachelor' Mansion renovation show, viewing it as a smart move for the Bachelor franchise to generate buzz. 
  • The friendship between Lala Kent and Scheana Shay has reached a point of no return, stemming from alleged issues over the promotion of Scheana's memoir and a deeper breach of trust regarding private information. 
  • Sheena Shay declined a role on 'The Valley' because she felt like the 'senior who graduates high school and comes back knocking on the door,' a perspective that shifted after consulting Paige about leaving 'Summer House.' 
  • The 'Dancing With the Stars' Dedication Night resulted in Dylan and Daniella achieving the top score, but no couple was eliminated due to the emotional nature of the tributes. 

Segments

LA Life and Bruto Update
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  • Key Takeaway: Claudia Oshry is currently struggling with a negative mindset in Los Angeles, missing her dog Romeo, while Bruto is out for grooming.
  • Summary: Claudia expressed missing her dog Romeo, indicating a negative shift in her feelings toward Los Angeles, contrasting with yesterday’s tolerance. Jackie advised her to visit the ocean to counteract this negative reality-affecting mindset. Bruto, the dog, is currently absent as he is being groomed.
Ocean Therapy and Water Signs
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  • Key Takeaway: Jackie recommended Claudia drive down the Pacific Coast Highway in a convertible to ’touch sand’ and reset her mood.
  • Summary: Jackie suggested Claudia should go to the ocean, noting that Claudia is a water sign, which is inconvenient as Claudia dislikes swimming. Claudia mentioned she has a pool but rarely uses it due to pregnancy restrictions. The advice included renting a convertible and driving the PCH to get away from ‘Tinsel Town.’
Ben’s Hollywood Ambitions
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  • Key Takeaway: Ben is reportedly thriving in Los Angeles and is eager to appear on ‘The Toast’ podcast when Jackie goes on maternity leave.
  • Summary: Claudia noted that her husband, Ben, is loving life in Los Angeles and is ’literally 50 feet from stardom.’ Ben is reportedly dying to get on the podcast to offer a different perspective on their LA experiences. The Good Guys podcast is currently doing well, which Claudia jokingly suggests might be why she feels unbalanced.
DWTS Recap Delay
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  • Key Takeaway: The ‘Dancing With the Stars’ recap is postponed because the show airs too late on the West Coast for Jackie to watch live.
  • Summary: Due to the 5 PM Pacific time taping, the show airs three hours later for Jackie, meaning she was asleep by the time it aired. Jackie learned that nobody went home, which negated the need to stay up late to watch the full episode. The recap will instead be covered in the fifth and final story segment.
DWTS Tribute Reactions
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  • Key Takeaway: The group dances featuring three people felt ‘weird,’ but Jen Affleck’s and Whitney’s emotional tributes were deeply moving.
  • Summary: Jackie found the group dances, which often featured two girls and a guy, to be awkward and ‘fucking weird.’ She was deeply moved by Jen Affleck’s montage about needing her mother and Whitney’s tribute to Connor. The segment ended with a teaser about what ‘Mr. Feeny’ did during the dedication night.
Kim Herjavek Guest Judge
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  • Key Takeaway: Kim Herjavek served as a guest judge, prompting a discussion about her relationship with Robert Herjavek and the ‘scorned lovers’ trope.
  • Summary: Kim Herjavek’s appearance led to a reflection on her relationship with Robert Herjavek, who left his long-time wife for his dance partner. The hosts categorized this situation as the ‘Shania Twain effect’ or the ‘scorned lovers’ trope. They felt good about being ‘soft’ on the couple because their ethical missteps seemed irrelevant to their professional lives.
Wendy Osefo Insurance Fraud
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  • Key Takeaway: Wendy Osefo and her lawyer husband allegedly committed serious insurance fraud by claiming high-value items were stolen while they were on vacation, leaving extensive paper trails.
  • Summary: Wendy Osefo, known for stunting her education, is facing serious allegations of insurance fraud involving claims up to $400,000. Evidence includes emails detailing the fraud and Wendy wearing the allegedly stolen items shortly after the claim. A clip of her discussing the robbery using the word ‘kiddos’ is now viewed as a sinister red flag in hindsight.
Nanit and Quince Ads
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  • Key Takeaway: Nanit offers parents an average of 36 more nights of sleep per year, while Quince provides luxury essentials like cashmere at a fraction of designer prices.
  • Summary: Nanit is promoted as the number one smart baby monitor, featuring breathing motion monitoring without wires or sensors, offering 25% off with code BABY25. Quince offers quality essentials like Mongolian cashmere for $50 by cutting out middlemen, providing free shipping and 365-day returns with code TOAST.
AG1 Sleep Product Launch
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  • Key Takeaway: AG1 has launched AGZ, a nightly, melatonin-free drink containing adaptogens, herbs, and minerals like magnesium to support the body’s natural sleep cycle.
  • Summary: AGZ is a new product from AG1 designed for winding down and resting, focusing on whole-body health through sleep support. It is a melatonin-free formula that includes 250mg of high bioavailable magnesium per serving. Listeners can get a free frother with their first purchase of AGZ using code TOAST at drinkag1.com/toast.
Selena Gomez/Beckham Feud
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(00:20:47)
  • Key Takeaway: Reports confirm Nicola and Brooklyn Peltz Beckham have grown apart from Selena Gomez, evidenced by their absence from her wedding, suggesting the couple may be the toxic element.
  • Summary: While an insider claims there is ’no bad blood,’ the hosts noted that relationships evolve, especially when one party is not invited to the other’s large wedding. The hosts pointed out that Selena has many long-term friends, making the sudden split with the Beckhams notable. The situation is complicated by Selena’s estrangement from her own kidney donor.
Victoria Beckham Documentary Review
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  • Key Takeaway: The Victoria Beckham documentary was compelling due to her honesty about financial debt and anorexia but ultimately felt like an advertisement for her fashion brand, omitting key details like the Spice Girls’ breakup.
  • Summary: The documentary was deemed less interesting than David Beckham’s because it skipped over major family history, focusing instead on Victoria’s fashion career, including a stressful Paris show. Victoria was honest about putting David in $39 million of debt and her past struggles with anorexia. The hosts felt the documentary aimed to legitimize her status in the fashion industry, evidenced by Anna Wintour’s appearance.
Bachelor Mansion Renovation Show
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(00:30:25)
  • Key Takeaway: HGTV is launching a competition show to renovate the Bachelor Mansion, judged by Tayshia Adams and Tyler Cameron, featuring former contestants as competitors.
  • Summary: The show, hosted by Jesse Palmer, will feature former contestants from all Bachelor franchises competing to renovate the iconic mansion over six episodes. The hosts believe this move is a necessary step for the Bachelor franchise to regain relevance in the current streaming reality TV landscape. Contestants include Dean Bell, Courtney Robertson, and Jeremy Simon.
Apple TV Plus Rebrand
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  • Key Takeaway: Apple TV Plus is dropping the ‘Plus’ suffix, likely mimicking HBO’s attention-grabbing rebrand, while Netflix is partnering with Spotify to stream select video podcasts starting in 2026.
  • Summary: The hosts believe Apple’s decision to drop the ‘Plus’ is an attempt to gain attention, similar to HBO’s previous move. Netflix’s deal with Spotify will bring shows from The Ringer and others to the platform, potentially paving the way for independent podcasts like ‘The Toast’ to gain streaming visibility later. The Ringer shows slated for Netflix include ‘The Rewatchables’ and various sports analysis podcasts.
Boulevard and Game Time Ads
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(00:44:03)
  • Key Takeaway: Boulevard offers a unified client experience platform for self-care businesses, while Game Time guarantees included fees for ticket purchases.
  • Summary: Boulevard streamlines booking, payments, and marketing for salons and spas, boasting high client retention and ROI through AI tools. Game Time offers a lowest price guarantee and includes all fees upfront, eliminating surprise checkout costs, and provides seat views before purchase. Listeners can use code TOAST for $20 off their first Game Time purchase.
Neuro Functional Wellness Gum
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(00:46:56)
  • Key Takeaway: Neuro offers clean energy gum and mints powered by green tea caffeine and L-theanine, alongside melatonin-free sleep aids, as a functional wellness alternative.
  • Summary: Neuro products provide focused energy without sugar or crash, utilizing ingredients like caffeine from green tea and B vitamins. They also offer caffeine-free options, such as sleep and recharge mints with melatonin and chamomile, designed to support natural sleep cycles. Listeners can receive 20% off their first order using code TOAST at NeuroGum.com.
Lala Kent and Scheana Shay Feud
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(00:48:34)
  • Key Takeaway: Lala Kent and Scheana Shay’s friendship has reached a point of no return, coinciding with Lala joining ‘The Valley’ full-time while Scheana is not.
  • Summary: Lala confirmed to Page Six that she is returning to reality TV full-time on ‘The Valley,’ but Scheana Shay is not part of the main cast. Scheana reportedly had the show’s producer on her podcast to discuss her absence. The hosts noted that Lala’s return contrasts with Scheana’s current status on the show.
Lala Kent and Scheana Feud
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  • Key Takeaway: Lala Kent refused to discuss Scheana Shay during a recent interview, confirming their friendship has ended.
  • Summary: Lala Kent refused to speak about Scheana Shay, stating she has said everything necessary regarding their situation. One reported source of conflict is Lala’s lack of emphatic promotion for Scheana’s memoir, which contrasted with Scheana’s support for Lala’s book. Another potential root cause cited is Sheena’s belief that Lala repeated private information about her husband’s past affair.
Sheena’s Reality TV Decision
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  • Key Takeaway: Sheena Shay declined a role on ‘The Valley’ after reading a comment comparing her to a high school senior returning to her old school.
  • Summary: Sheena confirmed she was offered a role on ‘The Valley’ but declined it, validating this by having the producer on her podcast. Her perspective shifted after reading a TikTok comment suggesting she was like a high school senior trying to return to a place she had already left. Advice from Paige about leaving ‘Summer House’ also empowered her decision.
Lala and Tom Schwartz Speculation
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  • Key Takeaway: The hosts are excited by Lala Kent and Tom Schwartz’s recent social media interaction, viewing it as a potential ‘soft launch’ of a relationship.
  • Summary: The hosts noted Lala Kent posted a picture with Tom Schwartz, leading to speculation about a romantic connection, despite acknowledging he was a terrible husband to Katie. They believe that while Lala deserves better, the ‘best of Schwartz’ could be a ‘soft landing place’ for her. The hosts urged for this potential relationship to be documented on television.
DWTS Dedication Night Recap
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  • Key Takeaway: Dylan and Daniella topped the ‘Dancing With the Stars’ Dedication Night scores, but no one was eliminated to honor the emotional theme.
  • Summary: Dylan and Daniella scored the highest with a 36/40 for their lyrical dance dedicated to Dylan’s five-year-old sister. Robert Irwin and Whitney Carson tied for second place with a 35/40 for their moving tribute to Robert’s mother. No elimination occurred because sending someone home on such an emotional night would have been deemed inappropriate.
DWTS Score Inconsistencies
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  • Key Takeaway: Jenna Johnson and Val Chmerkovskiy’s score of 29/40 for their dance dedicated to Mr. Feeney was deemed unfairly low by the hosts.
  • Summary: Jenna Johnson and Val Chmerkovskiy received a 29/40 for their dance dedicated to Mr. Feeney, which the hosts felt was beautiful and emotional. The hosts argued that Jenna should receive a ‘postpartum handicap’ similar to the one they feel Andy Richter receives, suggesting she is being scored too harshly. Danielle Fishel and Pasha also scored 29/40 for their tribute which incorporated Mr. Feeney into the choreography.
Alex Earl Family Dynamics
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  • Key Takeaway: Alex Earl’s mature blended family structure, with her father, stepmom, and mother sitting together, is highlighted as remarkable.
  • Summary: Alex Earl and Val received a 35/40 for their dance dedicated to Alex’s little sister, who helped heal her family dynamic. The audience included Alex’s father, stepmom, and mother sitting next to each other, which the hosts praised as incredibly mature. The hosts suggested Alex’s mother would be an ideal candidate for ‘The Golden Bachelorette.’