The Toast

Podcasting in 4k with Danielle Carolan: Thursday, November 20th, 2025

November 20, 2025

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  • Co-host Danielle Carolan's previous appearance on *The Toast* was highly impactful, attracting many new listeners, particularly those who were college-aged. 
  • Both Claudia Oshry and Danielle Carolan share an extremely restrictive eating style, which they humorously label as ARFID (Avoidant/Restrictive Food Intake Disorder), preferring simple foods like chicken, rice, and pasta. 
  • Danielle Carolan expressed strong opinions against the perceived dishonesty in the CMA Awards voting process, particularly regarding the consistent recognition of Lainey Wilson over artists like Morgan Wallen, whose commercial success arguably made him the true 'Entertainer of the Year.' 
  • The hosts debate the necessity of therapy, with one host believing it is only beneficial if someone is actively considering it, while the other emphasizes the value of having a strong support system outside of therapy. 
  • The discussion around the 'New York influencers are boring' TikTok drama reveals that the hosts, despite being New York-based influencers, did not feel personally targeted by the critique. 
  • TikTok is perceived as having significantly worse moderation and more anonymous hate compared to Instagram, which has better features for blocking malicious accounts. 

Segments

Welcoming Co-Host Danielle Carolan
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  • Key Takeaway: Danielle Carolan’s name pronunciation preference is ‘Caroline,’ not ‘Carolyn.’
  • Summary: The episode opens by welcoming co-host Danielle Carolan, who is noted as a Georgia native and a returning guest. Claudia Oshry confirms the correct pronunciation of her name as ‘Caroline.’ The hosts immediately reference the significant positive impact Carolan had on the podcast’s audience during her first appearance.
UGA Royalty and Greek Grind
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  • Key Takeaway: Claudia Oshry was considered ‘royalty’ during a visit to the University of Georgia (UGA) where she hosted the Greek Grind event.
  • Summary: The hosts reminisce about a time they were both in Athens, Georgia, noting Claudia Oshry’s fame there. Carolan mentions Oshry hosted the ‘Greek Grind’ event about eight years prior. Oshry recalls making unpopular jokes about Chick-fil-A during that event.
Picky Eating and ARFID
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  • Key Takeaway: Both hosts identify as extremely picky eaters, preferring simple foods like chicken, rice, and pasta, and dislike mayonnaise and most salads.
  • Summary: The discussion reveals both hosts share a highly restrictive diet, which they jokingly link to ARFID (Avoidant/Restrictive Food Intake Disorder). They agree on a shared aversion to seafood, mayo, and salads like egg, tuna, or chicken salad. Carolan notes that salmon is the only seafood she will eat, while Oshry prefers chicken over fish like Branzino.
Disdain for Restaurant Specials
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  • Key Takeaway: Claudia Oshry actively dislikes hearing restaurant specials because she feels awkward about the server’s effort versus her preference for simple menu items.
  • Summary: Oshry admits to hating when servers recite specials, feeling awkward about the effort put into memorizing them. She states she has never ordered a special unless it was mozzarella sticks, which she humorously feels sophisticated ordering despite equating them to bowling alley food.
Norovirus Incident and Rescheduling
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  • Key Takeaway: Danielle Carolan’s original appearance was canceled due to Claudia Oshry contracting a severe norovirus infection.
  • Summary: Carolan was supposed to co-host two years prior, but the day was canceled when Oshry fell ill with norovirus following a weekend of heavy drinking. Oshry experienced the severe 72-hour bug, which hit her household hard starting Sunday morning. Carolan’s return is framed as a chance to ‘rewrite history’ regarding that negative memory.
Comfort Creator and Content Praise
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  • Key Takeaway: Claudia Oshry considers Danielle Carolan a ‘comfort creator’ whose content she genuinely enjoys and supports financially.
  • Summary: Oshry expresses her admiration for Carolan’s content, calling her a ‘comfort creator’ whom she watches everything from. She specifically praises Carolan’s ‘Get Ready With Me’ and ‘Day in the Life’ videos for their authenticity, especially the clips showing the setup/teardown process.
Disney Cruise Experience
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  • Key Takeaway: Danielle Carolan enjoyed her Disney Cruise, but Claudia Oshry, being ‘Team Go,’ would likely dislike the confined vessel environment.
  • Summary: Carolan recently returned from a Disney Cruise, which she enjoyed due to the buffets and swimming opportunities. Oshry identifies as ‘Team Go,’ meaning she prefers leaving events promptly, suggesting she would struggle with the limited environment of a cruise ship.
Florida vs. Seasons Debate
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  • Key Takeaway: Danielle Carolan moved from Florida to Georgia specifically to experience distinct seasons, which she values highly.
  • Summary: Carolan left Florida for college because she desired to experience seasons, noting she had never seen leaves change color before moving north. She acknowledges that while Florida has advantages, the changing seasons make life feel more magical, especially in places like Central Park.
Influencer vs. Content Creator Terminology
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(00:12:37)
  • Key Takeaway: Both hosts dislike the term ‘influencer,’ preferring ‘content creator’ or specifying their primary platform (e.g., podcaster, YouTuber).
  • Summary: The hosts agree that the term ‘influencer’ has become a negative buzzword, often used to criticize jobs dominated by women. Carolan prefers identifying as a podcaster, while Oshry notes her primary income stream is podcasting, which feeds her other platforms. They feel that calling oneself a YouTuber or content creator is more accurate today.
CMA Awards Winner Disappointment
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(00:19:51)
  • Key Takeaway: Claudia Oshry believes Morgan Wallen was the true Entertainer of the Year, criticizing the CMA Awards for nominating him while awarding Lainey Wilson, suggesting the latter’s win felt like a ‘checked box.’
  • Summary: Lainey Wilson won Entertainer of the Year for the third time, despite Oshry arguing Morgan Wallen’s commercial success made him the clear choice. Oshry feels the country music industry has a history of overlooking female artists but that Wilson’s win felt forced due to her hosting duties. Oshry also expressed disappointment that ‘You Look Like You Love Me’ by Riley Green and Ella Langley did not win Single of the Year over the actual winner.
Shay Mitchell Skincare Backlash
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  • Key Takeaway: Claudia Oshry’s opinion shifted to indifference regarding Shay Mitchell’s kids’ skincare line after seeing Mitchell handle backlash gracefully on the Today Show.
  • Summary: Oshry initially disliked the concept of kids’ skincare but changed her mind after Jenna Bush Hager aggressively questioned Mitchell, who responded calmly. Oshry now believes that if kids are going to use products, safer options are better than the harsh ingredients found in some viral trends like Drunk Elephant. She compares the current trend to children playing with fake makeup sets from stores like Claire’s.
Khloe Kardashian’s Journal Burning
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(00:34:56)
  • Key Takeaway: Lamar Odom burned Khloe Kardashian’s journals in front of her due to paranoia, causing her to stop journaling entirely due to resulting PTSD.
  • Summary: Khloe Kardashian revealed that Lamar Odom burned years of her personal journals while they were married because he was paranoid she was sending notes to the government. Oshry found this act incredibly evil, noting that it’s an irreparable violation of privacy. As a result of this trauma, Kardashian stated she no longer journals.
Therapy and Career Explanation
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  • Key Takeaway: Explaining one’s influencer career to a therapist can be daunting, especially if the therapist is older and unfamiliar with the field.
  • Summary: One host’s younger therapist already knew about her job, which felt scary, while the other host worried about how to explain their career to an older therapist. They concluded that if someone is thinking about therapy, they should try it, but not everyone necessarily needs it. Having close family support can sometimes mitigate the need for therapy for communication and feeling identification.
NY Influencer Drama Reaction
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(00:40:09)
  • Key Takeaway: The hosts felt sad for the New York influencers being criticized for their ‘boring’ content, even though they did not believe the critique applied to themselves.
  • Summary: The hosts agreed they were not the subject of the viral TikTok criticizing New York influencers for posting repetitive content like Pilates and coffee routines. One host felt the creator of the video was mean-spirited and jealous, despite acknowledging the point about repetitive content being fair. They noted that TikTok encourages users to make videos out of every ‘crazy thought’ they have.
Social Media Platform Comparison
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  • Key Takeaway: Instagram is superior to TikTok in managing hate and anonymous accounts due to its effective ‘block any other accounts’ feature.
  • Summary: The hosts contrasted the hate they receive on TikTok versus Instagram, noting TikTok’s antisemitism problem and lack of regulation. Instagram’s system is praised because blocking a user often prevents them from creating new accounts to harass the blocker. The difference in platform experience is partially attributed to generational preference, with one host identifying as Gen Z and the other feeling closer to Millennials.
Age Perception and College Pride
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  • Key Takeaway: One host was surprised by the other’s age, initially thinking she was older due to her sophistication and success.
  • Summary: The host who is 27 enjoys being that age more than 26, and often receives comments suggesting she seems older due to her success. The other host, who associated her with college, initially thought she was around 30. The younger host strongly supports the University of Georgia, wearing red and expressing hope for the SEC championship.
Baked by Melissa Ad Read
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  • Key Takeaway: Baked by Melissa cupcakes are recommended as a thoughtful, easily shippable gift, especially for holidays or new parents.
  • Summary: The bite-sized cupcakes are a crowd-pleaser, with the peanut butter and jelly flavor highlighted. Their shipping and gift sets are excellent for nationwide delivery, arriving fresh within one to two days. They offer gluten-free, vegan, and no-nut options, making them suitable for everyone.
Skims Undergarment Endorsement
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(00:44:31)
  • Key Takeaway: The Skims Fits Everybody Racerback Bralette is recommended as a comfortable alternative to heavy-duty bras for all-day wear.
  • Summary: The host, who is part of the ‘Big Titty Committee,’ finds Skims essential for comfortable undergarments, bras, and loungewear. The Skims T-shirt bra is noted as a good heavy-duty option, but the bralette is preferred for comfort when not wanting to be completely bra-less. The Skims Soft Lounge Sleep Set is suggested as a worthwhile indulgence over a basic t-shirt.
Hair by Chrissy TikTok Drama
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  • Key Takeaway: Hair by Chrissy (dubbed ‘Hair by Krispy’ by critics) demonstrates remarkable resilience, surviving multiple cancellations and leveraging scandal for merchandise.
  • Summary: The drama centers on a client paying $4,000 for the ‘Hair by Chrissy experience’ but allegedly not receiving service from Chrissy and being charged separately for conditioner. The client’s negative testimonial video gained 30 million views, but Chrissy is noted for her business acumen, already creating ‘Hair in 4K’ merchandise to capitalize on the moment. The hosts expressed less sympathy for the client, arguing that knowingly paying such a high price for an internet-famous stylist requires personal accountability.
Facialist Burn Scandal
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  • Key Takeaway: A famous LA facialist caused a permanent scar on a client’s face with a serum and then charged the client for subsequent corrective micro-needling treatments.
  • Summary: A client received a permanent, visible burn on her cheek from a serum applied by a facialist. The facialist attempted to fix the scar using micro-needling, for which the client was charged, resulting in a permanent mark. This story served as a cautionary tale about being extremely careful when receiving high-cost beauty treatments.
Hair Color Identity and Branding
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  • Key Takeaway: The contrasting hair colors of the two hosts are essential for audience differentiation, preventing confusion when clips go viral.
  • Summary: One host has sew-in extensions from Covenant Hair and maintains blonde hair, while the other host is brunette. They noted that when clips go viral, listeners often identify them as ’the brunette girl’ or ’the red-headed girl’ (referencing the red shirt worn by the brunette host). The brunette host fears that if they had the same hair color, listeners might resort to identifying them by body size.
Bill Belichick and Jordon Hudson Support
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  • Key Takeaway: Bill Belichick, 75, attended his 24-year-old girlfriend Jordon Hudson’s competitive cheerleading event, raising questions about their dynamic.
  • Summary: Belichick was spotted supporting Hudson at a national cheer competition, which prompted confusion as competitive cheerleading careers typically end after college, making Hudson’s 24-year-old participation unusual. The hosts noted that while Tom Brady and Gronk have seen positive post-Patriots trajectories, Bill Belichick appears to be on a ‘downfall.’ They speculate that Hudson may act as a motivator or even a publicist for him.
Cohost Relationship Dynamics
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  • Key Takeaway: The hosts of ‘Gals on the Go’ maintain a healthy working relationship due to their long history and commitment to honest, therapeutic communication.
  • Summary: The hosts of ‘Gals on the Go’ do not fight because they are both healthy communicators, partly due to being in therapy. They met in person at age 14/15 after connecting online, with their mothers present at the mall meeting. One host’s positive experience showing the other the University of Georgia campus influenced her decision to attend UGA.