The Toast

Things That Needed To Be Said: Monday, October 20th, 2025

October 20, 2025

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  • Claudia Oshry has returned to New York from Los Angeles due to experiencing severe anxiety while away, leading to a return to the normal podcast release schedule. 
  • Jackie Oshry is preparing for her maternity leave, stating she will continue hosting *The Toast* until she physically cannot anymore, with no hard stop date set. 
  • The hosts strongly criticized Selena Gomez for seemingly inciting renewed online hate toward Hailey Bieber following an interview where Hailey addressed being pitted against other brands. 
  • The hosts express strong negative feelings about a recent project or appearance by Kylie Jenner, feeling it is a step down from her usual elevated status, despite being genuine fans of her products. 
  • The hosts are cautiously supportive of a potential reconciliation between Blac Chyna and Rob Kardashian, viewing them as potentially right for each other despite the complications arising from past legal issues. 
  • The hosts praise content creator Bridget Bahl's Vogue feature detailing her journey from IVF to a cancer diagnosis, viewing it as an inspiring and necessary story for a publication like Vogue. 

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Claudia’s Return and LA Anxiety
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(00:00:03)
  • Key Takeaway: Claudia Oshry returned to New York from Los Angeles after experiencing crippling anxiety while alone, which she had not previously experienced.
  • Summary: Claudia is back in New York after a brief, anxiety-inducing trip to LA while Ben was away. She experienced crippling anxiety during that time, which she had not previously associated with postpartum issues. Her return means the podcast episodes will resume their normal release time, no longer affected by Pacific Time scheduling.
Jackie’s Maternity Leave Status
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(00:02:42)
  • Key Takeaway: Jackie Oshry has no hard stop date for her maternity leave and will continue hosting The Toast until she feels she cannot continue.
  • Summary: Jackie confirmed she is still hosting and does not have a firm end date for her time off, stating she will be present until she can no longer record. She apologized for canceling guest co-hosts who were booked for her upcoming absence. Jackie also mentioned suffering an aura migraine the previous night, which contributed to her uncertainty about future availability.
Chad Powers Cast Revelation
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  • Key Takeaway: The actress playing the coach’s daughter in Chad Powers is married to former NFL quarterback Mark Sanchez.
  • Summary: While catching up on Chad Powers, Claudia realized the actress playing the coach’s daughter looked familiar. She discovered the actress is married to Mark Sanchez, a sports figure they have previously discussed on The Toast. Claudia was shocked by this connection, noting the actress appeared very young.
Reality TV and Modeling Gripes
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  • Key Takeaway: The hosts finished Love Is Blind Season 9 and expressed shared disdain for the difficulty and lack of empathy surrounding professional modeling.
  • Summary: Both hosts are caught up on Love Is Blind and noted Molly Mae’s new documentary is available. They related to Molly Mae’s frustration during a styling session, reinforcing their belief that modeling is difficult despite public perception. They recalled their own difficult experiences modeling for Children’s Place and their merch photoshoot.
Romeo’s Return Completes Home
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(00:08:48)
  • Key Takeaway: The return of the dog, Romeo, symbolized the completion of home and family for Claudia after her time away in LA.
  • Summary: Claudia felt the need for a ‘full factory reset’ upon returning home, which was achieved when Romeo was brought back. She missed what Romeo represented—the completeness of her home unit—rather than the dog itself initially. This experience reinforced the truth that one needs to leave home to fully appreciate it.
Louvre Museum Heist Details
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  • Key Takeaway: Thieves disguised as construction workers stole nine pieces of jewelry of ‘inestimable value’ from Napoleon’s collection at the Louvre before escaping on motorcycles.
  • Summary: Several individuals broke into the Louvre, cracking display cases to steal jewelry belonging to Emperor Napoleon and his wife, Josephine. The thieves made mistakes, including dropping a tiara and leaving evidence, before fleeing. The hosts doubt the jewels will be recovered, speculating they are already being broken down for parts on the black market.
Selena Gomez/Hailey Bieber Feud Update
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(00:23:43)
  • Key Takeaway: Selena Gomez posted a response criticizing Hailey Bieber’s comments about being pitted against other brands, which the hosts viewed as a desperate, veiled attack.
  • Summary: Hailey Bieber stated in an interview that it is annoying being pitted against others, a comment made before the reporter specifically mentioned Selena Gomez’s Rare Beauty. Selena responded on Instagram telling people to ‘just leave the girl alone’ and adding that brands inspire her, which the hosts interpreted as calling Hailey unintelligent and a victim.
Academy Museum Gala Fashion
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  • Key Takeaway: Kim Kardashian wore a sheet over her face for the second time, while Kaia Gerber was praised for her stunning look and elevated glam.
  • Summary: The Academy Museum Gala 2025 featured high fashion, with Kim Kardashian drawing attention for covering her face with a sheet, a look the hosts found confusing given the quality of her underlying dress. Kaia Gerber was noted as best dressed, appearing more beautiful than ever, possibly due to weight loss and a new, full-beat makeup style. The hosts also criticized the presence of an internet interview show on the red carpet, preferring the event remain silent and focused on visuals.
Sabrina Carpenter SNL Performance
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(00:35:44)
  • Key Takeaway: Sabrina Carpenter’s hosting and musical performance on SNL was highly praised for showcasing her versatile talent rooted in her Disney Channel background.
  • Summary: Sabrina Carpenter’s performance was well-received, with her ability to handle slapstick comedy being attributed to her Disney Channel upbringing. Her sketches, including a performance of ‘Man Child’ and a karate-themed bit, were considered fresh and adorable. The hosts noted the upcoming SNL musical guests, including Nikki Glazer, which is a significant achievement for her.
Instagram Bio Update and Philosophy
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(00:43:42)
  • Key Takeaway: Claudia Oshry changed her Instagram bio to ‘Strong opinions, loosely held,’ which she feels perfectly encapsulates her personality and platform presence.
  • Summary: Claudia updated her bio from ‘Tenured professor at Garjee Parjee University’ to ‘Strong opinions, loosely held,’ after receiving feedback. She feels this new phrase accurately reflects her approach to content creation. She is currently soliciting feedback from listeners on whether to keep the new bio or revert to the university reference.
Kylie Cosmetics 10-Year Anniversary Party
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  • Key Takeaway: The hosts expressed strong disapproval of Kylie Jenner’s King Kylie throwback party, viewing it as tacky and a step down from her usual elevated status.
  • Summary: Maddie Healy’s attendance at the Kylie Cosmetics 10-year anniversary party was noted, placing Kylie in a circle with artists like Charlie XCX. The hosts, who consider themselves true fans and consumers of Kylie Cosmetics, felt the party theme was tacky and filled with TikTokers. They believe Kylie is better than this aesthetic, especially after her recent high-profile appearances with Timothée Chalamet.
Kylie Jenner Project Disappointment
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  • Key Takeaway: The hosts, despite being genuine Kylie Cosmetics consumers, feel a recent Kylie Jenner project or appearance is uninspiring and a regression from her usual high-status image.
  • Summary: The speaker expresses strong dislike for a recent content matriculation involving Kylie Jenner, feeling it is beneath her status as someone who doesn’t film the main show. The hosts question if their negative reaction makes them ‘haters’ since others are celebrating the event (Kylie Cosmetics 10-Year Anniversary, referenced in show notes). One host confirms they are a true fan, even wearing a new Kylie Cosmetics skin tint, but finds the current situation ‘hurting’ them.
Rob Kardashian and Blac Chyna Rumors
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  • Key Takeaway: Blac Chyna hinted at a future with Rob Kardashian, expressing a preference to have more children with him over Tyga, though the hosts remain skeptical due to past family lawsuits.
  • Summary: Blac Chyna referred to Rob Kardashian as her ‘person’ and expressed a desire to expand her brood with him, admitting she’d prefer more kids with Rob than Tyga. The hosts are initially ‘here for it’ because both individuals have matured, but they worry about the impact of the large lawsuit involving Rob’s family. They conclude that while the individuals may have improved, too much has happened with the family for a successful reconciliation.
Inspiration and Vocabulary Lesson
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  • Key Takeaway: The hosts define ‘inspiring’ in the context of celebrity actions, contrasting Kylie Jenner’s uninspiring project with Hailey Bieber’s consistently trendy and tastemaking influence.
  • Summary: The hosts decide that ‘inspiring’ means something positive, contrasting Kylie Jenner’s recent project as ’not inspirational.’ They affirm that Hailey Bieber is ’endlessly inspired’ and is the definition of an inspiration because she is extremely trendy and a tastemaker. The segment concludes with a brief, playful vocabulary lesson on the word ‘matriculation.’
Bridget Bahl’s Cancer Journey Feature
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(00:53:36)
  • Key Takeaway: Vogue published a beautiful feature on content creator Bridget Bahl detailing her breast cancer diagnosis discovered during IVF, which has inspired followers to get checked.
  • Summary: Content creator Bridget Bahl shared her journey in Vogue after starting IVF and subsequently being diagnosed with breast cancer, which required her to pause treatment. The hosts praise the piece, noting Bahl is also the owner of The Bar company and that her journey has been a major topic among influencers for the past year. They commend Vogue for covering a story that is highly relevant to women’s issues, including Bahl’s use of cold capping during chemo.
Love Is Blind Season 9 Recap
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  • Key Takeaway: The hosts side with Joe in his breakup with Madison, arguing that she created a self-fulfilling prophecy by constantly demanding clarity when he was clearly not fully committed.
  • Summary: The hosts found Madison and Joe’s breakup deeply uncomfortable, believing Joe had a responsibility to be clearer, but ultimately siding with Joe because Madison’s constant questioning made him look worse. They argue that Joe was allowed to break up with her without radical transparency, as the truth would likely just be mean since he was not fully invested. The hosts criticize Madison for refusing to accept that Joe was not the right person, even after he proposed and they met family.