‘One Battle After Another’ Is a Modern Masterpiece, With Leonardo DiCaprio and Paul Thomas Anderson!
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- The hosts and guest Chris Ryan unanimously regard Paul Thomas Anderson's *One Battle After Another* as a potential 'movie of the decade' due to its technical mastery and startlingly prescient commentary on contemporary American life.
- The film’s first act, centered on Tiana Taylor's revolutionary character Perfidia, is noted for being more serious and impressionistic than the later, more comic and propulsive second half, which focuses on the father-daughter dynamic between Leonardo DiCaprio's character and Chase Infinity's Willa.
- Sean Penn's portrayal of the antagonist, Stephen Jay Lockjaw, is highlighted as a return to form, drawing comparisons to figures like Vince McMahon, while the subplot involving the white supremacist 'Christmas Adventurers Club' is identified as the most Pynchon-esque element of the movie.
- The film masterfully synthesizes hard-bitten drama and over-the-top comedy, a difficult tightrope walk that Paul Thomas Anderson executes effectively.
- Regina Hall's performance is highlighted as remarkably powerful despite being entirely devoid of laugh lines, communicating emotion primarily through reaction and facial expression.
- The latter half of the film features an incredibly tense and visually inventive car chase sequence through Borrego Springs, reminiscent of classic thrillers like *Duel*.
- The character Sensei Carlos, played by Benicio, was significantly developed on the day of shooting when he brought his own ideas, leading to what the speakers consider the best sequence in the film.
- Paul Thomas Anderson and Leonardo DiCaprio chose to set the film in the contemporary era for practical relief from period filmmaking constraints and because Anderson's deepening understanding of the generational gap, informed by having teenage children, made ignoring the present impossible.
- The film's core heroism lies not in traditional showdowns but in the protagonist Bob's relentless, flawed effort to move forward and protect his daughter, a theme discovered organically during production rather than adhering to expected tropes.
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Initial Spoiler Reactions
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- Key Takeaway: Amanda Dobbins declared One Battle After Another the best movie of the year and the decade so far, finding it startlingly prescient to the current American political climate.
- Summary: The film is lauded as being both technically excellent and deeply relevant to the last five years of American turmoil. Amanda Dobbins believes it speaks to current societal torments in alarming and exciting ways. Chris Ryan confirmed the film lived up to immense hype, calling it a transporting movie that captures real life magically.
PTA’s Stylistic Evolution
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- Key Takeaway: The film represents a culmination of Paul Thomas Anderson’s career by successfully applying his directorial skill set to a large-scale, propulsive blockbuster style, unlike his previous dialogue-heavy features.
- Summary: Unlike most PTA films where the camera moves but the characters remain stationary, this movie is constantly moving, featuring numerous set pieces, extras, and explosions. It is described as being closer in energy to Road Warrior than Nashville, yet retaining PTA’s unique viewpoint. This marks a significant stylistic departure for the director’s tenth feature.
Prologue: Revolution and Power
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- Key Takeaway: The film’s prologue focuses heavily on Tiana Taylor’s character, Perfidia, detailing the mechanics of her revolutionary acts and exploring the complex power dynamics inherent in her sexuality and relationship with Ghetto Pat.
- Summary: The opening 40 minutes are dedicated to Perfidia and Ghetto Pat’s revolutionary activities, including bank bombings and freeing migrants, set around 2008-2010. Perfidia’s character is shown to be living out loud, using her sexuality, which is complicated by her entanglement with the antagonist, Lockjaw. The prologue establishes themes of power, revolutionary commitment, and the complications of motherhood for a radical figure.
Second Act: Father-Daughter Dynamics
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- Key Takeaway: The second act jumps 16 years forward, establishing a strong father-daughter relationship between Bob and Willa, which is deeply personal to PTA’s own life experiences as a white father of biracial children.
- Summary: Bob (DiCaprio) and Willa (Chase Infinity) live off-grid, but Willa begins to chafe against her father’s paranoia and outdated revolutionary views, creating generational tension. Chase Infinity’s performance is praised for holding her own against veteran actors while convincingly portraying a capable teenager. A key emotional engine of the film is Bob’s desperate protectiveness of Willa, highlighted in scenes like the one before her school dance.
Antagonist Subplot: Christmas Adventurers
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- Key Takeaway: Sean Penn’s character, Lockjaw, is attempting to join a secret white supremacist organization called the Christmas Adventurers Club, which is introduced with the ‘What Are You Doing New Year’s Eve’ needle drop.
- Summary: Lockjaw is invited to join the club, whose stated goal is eliminating ‘maniacs, haters, and punk trash,’ aligning him with the film’s themes of controlling power structures. Sean Penn’s physical performance is noted as being highly immersive, possibly inspired by Vince McMahon or Michael Flynn. This subplot reveals Lockjaw’s motivation for pursuing Bob and Willa stems from his desire to whitewash his own hidden shames.
Character Appearance and Shame Theme
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- Key Takeaway: A character’s intentional disfigurement symbolizes the effort to whitewash their past, linking personal shame to the motivations of those in power.
- Summary: Leonardo DiCaprio’s character intentionally becomes ‘grosser looking’ as the film progresses, a transformation tied to his attempt to cleanse his history. The speakers identify the hidden shames of powerful individuals as a major theme driving their actions. The hair and makeup department receives a specific commendation for their effective work.
Vineland Influence and Christmas Adventures Club
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- Key Takeaway: The ‘Christmas Adventures Club’ elements are noted as the most Pynchonian part of the film, though this specific subplot is an addition not present in the source novel Vineland.
- Summary: The ‘Christmas Adventures Club’ sequence is deemed the most characteristic of Thomas Pynchon’s style within the movie. While the film shares the core familial/love triangle sentiment with Vineland, the club itself is an original invention for the adaptation. The speakers acknowledge that the movie’s existence is indebted to Vineland but contains significant departures.
Political Commentary and Militarization
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- Key Takeaway: The film offers a bracing commentary on contemporary politics by showing how personal animus directly fuels national policy and the militarization of domestic issues.
- Summary: The character’s decision to deploy Delta Force to wipe out a supposed hub of narco-terrorism and trafficking is driven by personal animus rather than objective necessity. This reflects a deep cynicism regarding military state operations, particularly following the Iraq War, highlighting unchecked power held by unknown figures. The line where a character asks for a reason to go to ’the cross’ illustrates the convenience of manufactured justifications for military action.
Protest Incitement and Tonal Balance
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- Key Takeaway: The film chillingly depicts the calculated incitement of violence during a protest by an agent dressed as a protester, juxtaposed against comedic character moments.
- Summary: A moment during a protest sequence shows an operative throwing a Molotov cocktail at police to provoke a violent response, leading to tear gas deployment. The film successfully walks a tightrope by balancing this terrifying political commentary with the comic performance of Leonardo DiCaprio’s character, Bob. This synthesis of serious and comedic genres is noted as exceptionally difficult to achieve.
Regina Hall’s Nuanced Role
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- Key Takeaway: Regina Hall delivers a powerful, emotionally resonant supporting performance as a surrogate mother and interrogator without delivering a single comedic line, maximizing subtle, reactive acting.
- Summary: Regina Hall’s character acts as a surrogate mother and later a suspicious interrogator while ex-filtering Willa to a revolutionary convent. The choice by Paul Thomas Anderson not to give the comedic actress any laugh lines makes her watchful, guardian angel role more powerful. Her performance communicates significant emotional weight through subtle facial expressions, particularly in moments involving the personal versus the political conflict.
Revolutionary Convent Dynamics and Naming
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- Key Takeaway: The revolutionary convent scene highlights the conflict between revolutionary duty and surrogate motherhood when Regina Hall’s character must decide whether to reveal a betrayal. The name ‘Perfidia’ is noted as an intentionally obvious, yet effective, piece of naming in the film.
- Summary: The Mother Superior (April Grace, who interviewed Frank TJ Mackey in Magnolia) and Regina Hall’s character debate the necessity of eliminating Willa as a loose end, stressing the need for tacit trust in a revolution. The discussion points out the irony of Willa’s mother being named Perfidia, which aligns with Paul Thomas Anderson’s tendency for insightful, if obvious, character naming. The segment also notes the inclusion of rapper Jungle Pussy in a memorable bank takeover scene.
Lockjaw’s Paternity Test and Rogue Actions
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- Key Takeaway: Lockjaw’s confrontation with Willa in the convent culminates in a visually engaging DNA paternity test, confirming him as her father and leading to his subsequent rogue actions against his own unit.
- Summary: Lockjaw, having gone rogue within his military unit to find Charlene/Willa, confronts her in the convent where a DNA test confirms paternity. The film makes the typically dry process of a paternity test visually tense with spinning tubes and droplets. Upon learning he is the father, Lockjaw realizes Willa must also be eliminated, but he cannot commit the act himself.
Bounty Hunter’s Moral Turn and Racist Antagonists
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- Key Takeaway: Bounty hunter Avanti Q, played by Eric Schweig, has a change of heart and chooses to save Willa after the white nationalist compound he was taking her to mocks his Native American heritage.
- Summary: Lockjaw hires bounty hunter Avanti Q (Eric Schweig) to take Willa to the ‘1776’ compound for execution, as Avanti refuses to kill a child himself. The tension peaks as Avanti overhears the white nationalists mocking his heritage and referencing old racist tropes like ‘Wagon Burner.’ This spurs Avanti to save Willa, leading to a violent confrontation with the compound members.
Bob’s Escape and Intercutting Action
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- Key Takeaway: Bob’s escape from prison with Sergio, involving drinking, revolutionary talk, and Sergio’s sacrifice, intercuts with Avanti’s moral crisis and the subsequent car chase.
- Summary: Bob is freed from prison by Sergio, and their journey involves drinking Modelos and discussing revolution, culminating in Sergio sacrificing himself for the cause. This narrative thread runs parallel to Avanti’s decision to save Willa and the ensuing chase sequence involving Tim, who is tasked with eliminating Lockjaw. The sequence features a funny Tom Cruise joke and Bob hotwiring a Celica to join the pursuit.
Climactic Highway Chase Sequence
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- Key Takeaway: The film’s climax features an unprecedented car chase on the loopy Borrego Springs highway, which Paul Thomas Anderson reportedly conceived only after scouting the location.
- Summary: The action culminates in a massive car chase involving Tim (in a Charger) pursuing Lockjaw, while Bob chases in the Celica, creating a complex, multi-car pursuit on a uniquely undulating highway. The visual effect of the chase is compared to Inception and the Disney ‘Soarin’ ride due to the extreme verticality of the road. Paul Thomas Anderson confirmed that this specific highway location inspired the entire structure of the ending sequence.
Willa’s Self-Defense and Bob’s Arrival
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- Key Takeaway: Willa demonstrates practical revolutionary knowledge by staging a crash to kill Tim, followed by an emotional breakdown after realizing the true cost of survival and her father’s monstrosity.
- Summary: Willa uses tactical knowledge to stop her car, causing Tim to crash into her, and then kills him with a gun from Avanti’s car, letting out a raw, emotional scream. This act signifies the real toll of her experiences and the knowledge that her birth father is a monster. Bob eventually arrives in the Celica, and Willa almost shoots him until he convinces her he is her father by quoting Gil Scott-Heron.
Lockjaw’s Fate and Club Initiation
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- Key Takeaway: Despite surviving the crash, Lockjaw is ultimately gassed to death upon achieving his goal of joining the Christmas Adventures Club, symbolizing the grim reality of corporate ambition.
- Summary: Lockjaw returns, bloodied, leading to confusion about his survival and the next steps for the organization, as Tim has also been killed. He eventually gains entry to the Christmas Adventures Club, only to be immediately gassed to death in his new corner office. This darkly comic end suggests that achieving the ultimate goal within that structure results in immediate termination.
Hopeful Conclusion and Generational Baton Pass
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- Key Takeaway: The film concludes with an emotionally moving voiceover from Willa’s mother, inspiring Willa to leave her father and join a protest, symbolizing the passing of the revolutionary baton to the next generation.
- Summary: The final scene features Tiana Taylor’s voiceover reading a letter from Willa’s mother, which inspires Willa to immediately leave her father and drive to an Oakland protest. This moment is underscored by the conventional but effective needle drop of ‘American Girl,’ signifying hope and the possibility of changing the world that the previous generation could not. Bob’s subsequent struggle with his new iPhone highlights the generational gap and the passing of technological knowledge.
Filmmaking Mechanics and Influences
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- Key Takeaway: The film’s technical ambition, shot on VistaVision with IMAX cameras, is supported by a score reminiscent of David Shire and Jonathan Demme’s close-up cinematography.
- Summary: The movie was shot on VistaVision using IMAX cameras, a challenging technical feat that creates overwhelming detail in close-ups, echoing Jonathan Demme’s style. Cinematographer Giovanni Rubisi is credited for rebuilding and supplying a VistaVision camera for Paul Thomas Anderson. The score by Johnny Greenwood utilizes rapid, plinking piano notes similar to Michael Small’s work in Klute, building tension.
Marketing Strategy and Box Office Potential
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- Key Takeaway: The marketing strategy, heavily reliant on Leonardo DiCaprio as an action star, may attract a broader audience than the typical PTA film, despite the second trailer not fully representing the movie’s tone.
- Summary: The second, Leo-forward trailer is seen as less representative of Paul Thomas Anderson’s style than the first trailer, yet it aims to sell the film as a major action movie. This strategy, combined with DiCaprio’s extensive press tour, aims to draw in general audiences who might not typically see a PTA film. The speakers note that the film’s political themes could either help or hinder its reception during cultural scrutiny.
Oscar Potential and Studio Strategy
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- Key Takeaway: The film has potential for up to 12 Oscar nominations, but Warner Brothers must navigate campaigning against other major releases like Hamnet and Sinners.
- Summary: There is a strong case for One Battle After Another to receive 10 to 12 Oscar nominations, including Picture, Director, and a likely nomination for Leonardo DiCaprio. The studio must decide how to allocate resources between this film, Sinners, and Weapons. Benicio Del Toro’s performance is specifically championed for a Best Supporting Actor campaign, despite the category being highly competitive.
Director’s Recurring Themes and Influences
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- Key Takeaway: The film draws heavily on Dr. Strangelove for its depiction of military paranoia and features motifs of tunnels, bridges, and love triangles reminiscent of Casablanca.
- Summary: The Christmas Adventures Club and Lockjaw’s final moments strongly evoke the paranoia and character dynamics of Dr. Strangelove, particularly Colonel Ripper. Paul Thomas Anderson cited The Searchers, Running on Empty, and The Battle of Algiers as influences, while the speakers noted strong parallels to Casablanca regarding revolution and love triangles. The film also utilizes visual motifs like characters moving through tunnels and across bridges, common in anxiety-driven thrillers like All the President’s Men.
Collaboration Timing and Creative Flexibility
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- Key Takeaway: Paul Thomas Anderson and Leonardo DiCaprio collaborated now because producer Adam Sumner insisted it was time, despite the director having worked on the script for 20 years and needing the right actress for Willa.
- Summary: The decision to finally make the film was driven by producer Adam Sumner stating, ‘It’s time for us to go make that one,’ after Phantom Thread. Leonardo DiCaprio was drawn to the film’s intricate thought process, comparing its structure to Star Wars but grounded in contemporary societal critique. The creative process remained flexible, as evidenced by Benicio Del Toro improvising key elements of his character’s backstory in a single day, despite the script being 20 years in the making.
Sensei Carlos Character Development
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- Key Takeaway: Benicio del Toro’s input on the day of shooting defined Sensei Carlos’s connections and backstory, including a ‘Harriet Tubman immigration system.’
- Summary: The actor Benicio arrived with a fully formed idea for Sensei Carlos, detailing connections in correctional facilities and hospitals. This improvisation, developed over a day and dinner, resulted in what the speakers deemed the best sequence in the movie. This process highlighted that 20 years of writing could be surpassed by immediate, collaborative creativity.
Contemporary Setting Rationale
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- Key Takeaway: The decision to set the film contemporaneously was driven by the practical relief of avoiding period filmmaking complexities and Paul Thomas Anderson’s deeper understanding of generational gaps after having teenagers.
- Summary: Shooting in the present day allowed the filmmakers to be fast on their feet and improvise without the constraints of period detail. Anderson felt compelled to embrace the contemporary setting after becoming more serious about the script, recognizing the impossibility of ignoring the current generational divide.
Father-Daughter Dynamic Preparation
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- Key Takeaway: Leonardo DiCaprio studied films like ‘Running on Empty’ and ‘Dog Day Afternoon’ to capture the frantic urgency of a makeshift father trying to relate to and protect his daughter.
- Summary: The father-daughter relationship forms the centrifuge and driving force of the entire movie, despite DiCaprio having played fathers before. DiCaprio referenced the frantic urgency of Al Pacino in ‘Dog Day Afternoon’ regarding getting a loved one back at all odds as an influence. He also mentioned ‘Lion in the Winter’ for its ability to switch between gigantic scale and razor’s edge intimacy.
Scale vs. Intimacy on Set
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- Key Takeaway: Despite the large scale of the production, the core filmmaking unit remained small, allowing the director and lead actor to know when they were achieving the desired result.
- Summary: DiCaprio confirmed that even on a big movie, the essential crew around the camera remains small, maintaining an intimate focus. The production began in a small cabin with only four people present, allowing for nightly dailies review to ensure the feeling was correct. The scale becomes inconsequential when the goal is clearly defined and preparation is thorough.
Comedic Drama Appeal
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- Key Takeaway: DiCaprio attributes his recent interest in anxious, comedic figures to reading material where the comedy arises naturally from real-life circumstances, not setup gags.
- Summary: The comedy in the film stems from the protagonist’s inability to overcome simple hurdles, such as not knowing a password, despite his revolutionary past. Paul Thomas Anderson views the protagonist’s heroism as simply propelling himself forward against odds, which naturally generates hilarious moments. The character’s flaws, like being stuck due to 16 years of disengagement, slow his game down.
Aging and Ideology Shift
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- Key Takeaway: The film explores how idealistic young radicals often converge into a similar ’leave me alone’ mentality by middle age, exemplified by the ‘hipneck’ character type.
- Summary: The dynamic between the older, stuck Bob and his younger, idealistic daughter reflects a natural slowing down that occurs with age. The concept of ‘hipnecks’ describes people whose opposing ideologies in youth lead them to the same inward-focused conclusion later in life. Bob’s inability to relate to his daughter’s current ideology contrasts with his own outdated revolutionary stance.
Avoiding the Showdown Trope
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- Key Takeaway: Paul Thomas Anderson deliberately avoided a traditional hero vs. villain showdown, deciding instead that the heroism was in passing the trauma and responsibility to the next generation.
- Summary: The decision to keep the protagonist and antagonist apart ultimately robbed the expected confrontation, focusing instead on Bob’s relentless presence as a father figure. The final decision was made on set, realizing the trauma Bob experienced needed to be passed on to his daughter immediately. The ending emphasizes the daughter’s shock and her own questions after enduring extreme events.
Film Format and Theatrical Experience
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- Key Takeaway: The use of large format film like VistaVision is intended to create a vital, communal theatrical experience that counters the oversaturation of fast-paced digital content.
- Summary: The communal theater experience allows audiences to connect with characters’ embarrassment or uncertainty in a way that small screens cannot replicate. This specific film, despite its budget, was made for the communal theatrical experience, where uncomfortable moments can be felt collectively. The pain of using complicated cameras like VistaVision is worthwhile because the movie is meant to be witnessed in theaters.
Filmmaker Inspirations and References
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- Key Takeaway: Paul Thomas Anderson recently re-watched Hitchcock’s ‘Vertigo’ as a reference point for a current project, noting how the film’s meaning shifts across decades.
- Summary: Anderson discussed how talking about ‘Vertigo’ with Martin Scorsese revealed new layers, prompting a re-watch to understand Scorsese’s specific focus points. They even shot a sequence in San Juan Bautista, a location used in ‘Vertigo,’ with their VistaVision camera. Leonardo DiCaprio cited the Steve McQueen film ‘Tom Horn’ as a recently viewed, terrific film beautifully shot by John Alonso.