The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

Brené Brown: We're In A Spiritual Crisis! The Hidden Epidemic No One Wants To Admit!

November 3, 2025

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  • The primary obstacle to bravery in life and work is not fear itself, but the 'armor' we use for self-protection, which distances us from love, connection, and our values. 
  • Identifying one's personal 'armor' when afraid is a crucial, trainable skill set, not an automatic response. 
  • The conversation between Steven Bartlett and Brené Brown is positioned as discussing profoundly important topics, despite potentially going to 'hard places.' 

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Sponsor Introduction: NetSuite Benefits
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  • Key Takeaway: Moving from startup to scale-up mode necessitates mission-critical adoption of integrated financial systems like NetSuite to reduce manual tasks and errors.
  • Summary: Having the right business systems is critical, especially as a founder transitions into scale-up mode. NetSuite, the number one cloud financial system, consolidates accounting, finance, management, inventory, and HR into one platform. This integration reduces manual tasks and errors, a benefit experienced by the host’s company, FlightStory.
Introduction to Brené Brown
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  • Key Takeaway: Brené Brown’s research focuses on how self-protective ‘armor’ prevents bravery by moving individuals away from core values like love and connection.
  • Summary: Brené Brown is introduced as the single most requested guest whose world-leading research covers shame, vulnerability, and connection. The core challenge discussed is recognizing the ‘armor’ reached for during fear, as this armor actively moves people away from love and connection.
Training to Identify Armor
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  • Key Takeaway: Awareness of one’s fear-based armor is not automatic but requires dedicated training.
  • Summary: The hardest work involves becoming aware of what one’s personal armor is when feeling afraid. This awareness is not an automatic process; it requires active training.