Something You Should Know

The Science of Morbid Curiosity & The Dirty Secrets of Clean Energy

October 20, 2025

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  • When attempting to connect or deepen a relationship with someone, speaking on the phone is significantly more effective at forming strong bonds than texting or emailing. 
  • Morbid curiosity, the fascination with potential threats like car crashes or true crime, is a widespread, normal human trait driven by the desire to learn about danger from a safe distance, and it is not inherently linked to violent behavior. 
  • The transition to 'clean energy' relies heavily on mining critical minerals like lithium, copper, and cobalt, which carries significant environmental and logistical costs that challenge the perception of these technologies as entirely 'clean.' 

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Best Way to Connect
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  • Key Takeaway: Phone calls create significantly stronger social bonds than email or text because hearing another person’s voice is magically effective for connection.
  • Summary: Research comparing connection methods found that participants who spoke on the phone felt closer to the other person and were happier with the exchange than those who used email, even when they initially anticipated the phone call would be awkward. This finding holds true even when connecting with strangers. To strengthen a relationship, picking up the phone is the scientifically recommended action.
Science of Morbid Curiosity
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  • Key Takeaway: Morbid curiosity is an evolutionary mechanism to learn about potential threats from a safe distance, which is amplified in humans by our ability to create stories about danger.
  • Summary: Morbid fascination, like looking at car crashes or consuming true crime, is rooted in predator inspection behavior seen in other animals, allowing for learning about danger without immediate risk. The human brain experiences conflicting signals when viewing fictional danger, where the defense center (amygdala) reacts, but the prefrontal cortex confirms safety. True crime podcasts are highly successful because they deliver descriptive details about danger without the fear or disgust triggers common in visual media.
Morbid Curiosity Demographics
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  • Key Takeaway: While overall morbid curiosity levels are similar between genders, women tend to focus more on the minds of dangerous people, while men focus more on the act of violence itself.
  • Summary: Morbid curiosity exists on a spectrum like other personality traits, with most people falling in the middle range. Highly morbidly curious individuals sometimes score slightly higher on anxiety measures. Interest in violent fiction, like video games, does not show a clear direct link to actual violence; factors like pre-existing psychological issues are more predictive of harmful behavior than curiosity alone. Morbidly curious people are empirically just as empathetic as those who are not.
Horror and Empathy Link
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  • Key Takeaway: The fear experienced while watching horror movies is fundamentally dependent on the viewer’s empathy for the protagonist who is in fictional danger.
  • Summary: Horror movie protagonists often make poor choices that put them in danger, which efficiently teaches the audience what behaviors to avoid in real-life dangerous situations (e.g., ‘don’t split up’). If a viewer lacked empathy for the protagonist, the horror elements would not be scary because the fear response is tied to empathizing with the threatened character. This learning mechanism through witnessing poor choices is often more effective than being directly told what to do.
Dirty Secrets of Clean Energy
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  • Key Takeaway: The green energy revolution requires massive amounts of critical minerals, meaning the transition is inherently tied to disruptive and dirty mining practices.
  • Summary: The assumption that green energy (solar, wind, batteries) is inherently clean is false because these technologies require minerals like lithium, copper, and cobalt, which must be mined. Lithium extraction is either extremely water-intensive in arid evaporation ponds or requires hard rock mining, and the resulting salt content causes equipment corrosion. While mining has become safer and more technologically advanced, it remains a loud, intrusive, and disruptive industry necessary to power modern electronics and electric vehicles.
Recycling Critical Minerals
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  • Key Takeaway: Unlike fossil fuels, critical minerals in batteries are recyclable, but widespread consumer recycling is hampered by a lack of established, easy-to-use collection systems.
  • Summary: Lithium batteries can be recycled because the minerals retain their ability to hold a charge, contrasting with gasoline which is permanently consumed. The average American home contains about six unused cell phones that could be recycled, but collection infrastructure is lacking, unlike the established system for lead-acid car batteries. Companies like Redwood Materials are working to create circular economies by breaking down electronics into ‘black mass’ for reuse in new batteries.
EV Power Source Matters
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  • Key Takeaway: The environmental benefit of owning an electric vehicle is entirely dependent on whether the electricity charging it comes from renewable sources rather than fossil fuels.
  • Summary: Purchasing an EV does not automatically guarantee lower carbon emissions; initial emissions from manufacturing an EV can sometimes be higher than for a traditional car. Over the vehicle’s lifespan, the carbon reduction is only realized if the power grid supplying the electricity is renewable (wind, solar, hydro, or nuclear). Consumers must consider the source of their electricity to ensure their EV adoption truly aids the planet.
Teen Friendships and Adult Health
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  • Key Takeaway: Strong friendships during the teenage years are linked to better overall health scores in early adulthood by mitigating the long-term health toll of chronic stress.
  • Summary: A study tracking middle schoolers until age 27 found that those with strong peer friendships reported better health scores later in life. The underlying theory suggests that social isolation causes low-level chronic stress, which damages health over time, whereas strong social connections reduce this stress. Having robust friendships early sets a foundation for continued social connection that supports long-term physical well-being.