Chicks in the Office

'Mormon Wives' Cast Overexposed? + We're Already Obsessed w/ 'The Traitors' S4

December 17, 2025

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  • The hosts shared a deeply personal reflection on realizing the sacrifices parents make during the holidays, contrasting childhood disappointment over gifts with adult appreciation. 
  • The conversation touched upon the tragic details emerging from the murder of Rob and Michele Reiner, noting their son Nick's alleged involvement and Rob Reiner's past advocacy and creative work. 
  • The hosts expressed significant excitement for the upcoming fourth season of 'The Traitors US,' highlighting the stacked cast which notably includes Donna Kelce. 
  • The hosts are highly anticipating Season 4 of 'The Traitors US' due to the strong cast, including Donna Kelsey, and expect weekly appointment television. 
  • There is significant discussion and concern regarding the potential retirement of Travis Kelce and the unfortunate possibility of his partnership with Patrick Mahomes concluding on a low note due to injury or poor performance. 
  • A listener voicemail raises the point that the frequency of 'Mormon Wives' seasons, coupled with cast crossovers, might be leading to overexposure and confusing the timeline of events, especially concerning reunions. 

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Holiday Gift Reflection
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  • Key Takeaway: Adults often regret past ungrateful reactions to holiday gifts, especially clothing, which parents saved up to purchase.
  • Summary: One host apologized to her mother for not showing proper gratitude for Christmas gifts as a teenager when clothes were received instead of toys. This realization stems from understanding the financial effort parents make for holiday presents. The sentiment reverses in adulthood, where receiving practical items like socks is now appreciated.
Abercrombie Holiday Collection
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  • Key Takeaway: Abercrombie has launched a new party collection featuring satin, sparkle, and sequins, alongside high-quality activewear (YPB) and cozy loungewear.
  • Summary: The new Abercrombie collection is timed for holiday events, offering items like sequined tops and coats, including a favored faux fur coat. Their activewear line, YPB, offers soft pieces suitable for gym recovery or lounging between Christmas and New Year’s. The brand’s sweatsets are highlighted as exceptionally cozy for holiday relaxation.
Cousin Gift Exchange Stress
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  • Key Takeaway: Being the oldest cousin often means struggling to buy appropriate gifts for younger relatives who are into current trends.
  • Summary: The host, being the oldest on both sides of the family, relies on texting aunts for gift ideas for younger cousins, including one who recently graduated college. For the dad’s side, Eagles gear is an easy go-to gift due to shared fandom. Buying for the youngest cousin involves navigating the latest toys, such as miniature Dyson Airwrap replicas.
Kids’ Beauty Product Debate
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  • Key Takeaway: Shea Mitchell’s children’s face masks sparked controversy because marketing beauty products directly to very young children normalizes appearance standards early.
  • Summary: While using household items for pretend face masks felt harmless in the past, selling branded beauty products to children as young as five raises concerns about opening the door to unnecessary beauty standards. The hosts differentiate this from a child occasionally using a parent’s lipstick with permission. The danger lies in commercializing products intended for self-care for toddlers.
Worst Sunburn Memories
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  • Key Takeaway: Severe childhood sunburns can cause lasting skin changes and are often remembered vividly, emphasizing the importance of daily sunscreen use.
  • Summary: One host recalled getting a severe sunburn at age seven in Florida that prevented her from enjoying Universal Studios the next day. Another host remembered a painful, zigzag sunburn from not rubbing in sunscreen stick properly, which caused her skin to react differently in that area afterward. Both hosts stressed that sunscreen application is crucial, even in winter.
Rob and Michele Reiner Case Update
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  • Key Takeaway: New details emerged that Nick Reiner was allegedly causing a scene at Conan O’Brien’s holiday party the night before the murders, following fights with his parents.
  • Summary: The son, Nick Reiner, was taken into custody in connection with the deaths of Rob and Michele Reiner. Reports indicate Nick was seen asking people if they were famous and causing a ruckus at a party Saturday night. The tragedy highlights the family’s long, unsuccessful struggle to get their son help for various issues.
Rob Reiner’s Legacy Note
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  • Key Takeaway: Rob Reiner reportedly rewrote the ending of When Harry Met Sally after meeting his wife, showcasing a beautiful personal impact on his celebrated work.
  • Summary: Despite the horrific nature of his death, a beautiful detail about Rob Reiner’s career resurfaced. He changed the conclusion of the iconic film When Harry Met Sally after meeting his wife. This fact adds a poignant layer to the legacy of a filmmaker who brought significant joy to many lives.
Glen Powell Dating News
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  • Key Takeaway: Glen Powell and Michelle Randolph are reportedly ‘casually dating’ after being spotted posing together at an LA event.
  • Summary: The pair were seen together at an event, leading to reports that they are seeing each other casually. The hosts found the pairing aesthetically pleasing, noting they look good together. The discussion also briefly referenced lingering public memory of Michelle Randolph’s past relationship with Greg Sulkin.
Fergie Rejoins Black Eyed Peas
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  • Key Takeaway: Fergie reunited with the Black Eyed Peas for milestone birthday celebrations, marking her first appearance with the group in eight years.
  • Summary: Fergie posted a photo celebrating birthdays with her ‘brothers’ in the Black Eyed Peas, using the ‘P’ emoji fittingly. The group has continued touring as a trio with an AI member since her departure, but fans strongly desire a full reunion tour featuring the original four members. The hosts noted that Black Eyed Peas music serves as a mutual favorite for them during car rides.
Sam Heughan Fan Frenzy
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  • Key Takeaway: Sam Heughan generates an intense reaction, particularly among older women, causing hosts to lose their composure during in-person interviews.
  • Summary: The hosts recounted being flustered during Sam Heughan’s in-studio visit, with one host accidentally calling him a ‘special guest’ instead of ‘scheduled guest.’ The host also recalled meeting him in 2016 at a barber store event surrounded by middle-aged Outlander fans. Sam Heughan, who is 45, signed cocktail books for the hosts, including a personalized message.
‘The Traitors US’ S4 Trailer Reaction
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  • Key Takeaway: The cast for ‘The Traitors US’ Season 4 is stacked, featuring reality TV veterans like Lisa Rinna and Maura Higgins, alongside NFL star Donna Kelce.
  • Summary: The trailer confirmed a highly anticipated cast, which the hosts believe will make the show appointment television. Lisa Rinna’s comment about ’they’re coming for us one by one’ suggests the housewives may be targeted early. The hosts anticipate Donna Kelce being a major source of entertainment, whether she is a faithful or a traitor.
The Traitors Donna Kelsey Feuds
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  • Key Takeaway: The beauty of ‘The Traitors’ is pointing fingers, potentially leading to unexpected feuds like Donna Kelsey fighting with Rob from Love Island.
  • Summary: The show encourages contestants to accuse others, which might result in surprising conflicts, such as Donna Kelsey being called a ’little traitor’ by Rob. Listeners anticipate Taylor Swift rooting for Donna Kelsey while watching the show. The cast is expected to make the show weekly appointment television.
Travis Kelce Media Silence
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  • Key Takeaway: Travis Kelce has refused to speak to the media after games for the past two weeks, which some speculate could be strategic.
  • Summary: Kelce has avoided media interaction following recent losses, contrasting with the expectation that players talk when winning. This silence is compared to Justin Herbert’s recent refusal to speak to the media after a game. The hosts acknowledge that talking to the press is part of the job, even when team vibes are low.
Mahomes and Kelce Future Speculation
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  • Key Takeaway: The possibility of Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce never playing together again after a potential season-ending loss is a shocking realization for the hosts.
  • Summary: The hosts were stunned by the realization that the current season could be the last time they see Mahomes and Kelce play together if Kelce retires or Mahomes suffers a major injury like an ACL tear. One host believes Kelce will not retire this season, despite the possibility of missing the playoffs for the first time in nearly a decade. Adam Schefter suggested Kelce might earn more from his podcast than playing football currently.
Anticipation for The Traitors Cast
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  • Key Takeaway: The high quality of ‘The Traitors’ Season 4 cast, including Mark Ballas, makes the early elimination of any contestant sad.
  • Summary: The hosts are excited for Donna on ‘The Traitors’ and many other cast members, but lament that someone must go home first, which is disappointing when the cast is so strong. They recall how fans became attached to Boston Rob’s strategic play before his early exit in a previous season. The early exit of contestants like Wells is noted as a disappointment.
Truly Holiday Seltzer Ad Read
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  • Key Takeaway: Truly released a limited edition Holiday Celebrations Pack featuring four new flavors: Peach Parade, Citrus Spark, Triseco Style, and Rose Style.
  • Summary: The Truly Celebrations Pack is promoted as the new holiday hero, perfect for holiday gatherings leading up to Christmas and New Year’s Eve. The four limited edition flavors are designed for celebrating and throwing the rules out the window. Listeners can find the pack in stores or visit trulyhardseltzers.com.
Voicemail: Meghan Markle Cooking Habits
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  • Key Takeaway: A listener was disturbed by footage of Meghan Markle mincing ground meat with her hands while wearing rings, citing hygiene concerns about trapped food particles.
  • Summary: The hosts largely agreed that mixing messy food with rings on is off-putting, though one admitted they might do it absentmindedly. The consensus is that jewelry should be removed for messy cooking tasks like making meatballs. The alternative is regularly cleaning jewelry, perhaps using a sonic cleaner.
Voicemail: Kris Jenner’s Rudeness
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  • Key Takeaway: A listener believes Kris Jenner is genuinely rude to staff and grandchildren based on recent ‘Kardashians’ episodes, suggesting her nice facade is reserved only for industry VIPs.
  • Summary: The voicemail referenced recent episodes showing Kris being short-tempered, such as telling an assistant to ‘shut the trunk.’ While some hosts find this entertaining as part of a ‘bit’ about their mom, others suggest it could reflect an ‘Ellen’ situation where she treats industry insiders better than those closest to her. However, others noted hearing that she generally treats crew members well on set.
Voicemail: Sally’s Reality TV Strategy
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  • Key Takeaway: Sally from ‘Southern Charm’ is compared to Luke from ‘Summerhouse’ for seemingly moving between reality shows, driven by a hunger for TV fame through dating storylines.
  • Summary: The caller suggests Sally’s storyline is heavily driven by dating anyone available across shows like ‘The Bachelor,’ ‘Southern Hospitality,’ and now ‘Southern Charm,’ mirroring Luke’s pattern. The hosts agreed that this behavior indicates a desire for reality TV exposure rather than purely romantic pursuits. Despite this, Sally is considered a fantastic, necessary addition to ‘Southern Charm’ for shaking up the entertainment factor.
Planet Fitness Ad Read
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  • Key Takeaway: Planet Fitness offers a high-value membership with access to over 2,700 clubs, many open 24 hours, featuring brand new plate-loaded machines like hack squats.
  • Summary: The gym provides in-class equipment comparable to more expensive gyms, supporting strength training, cardio, and stretching. They offer unlimited free fitness training for members, catering to all fitness journey levels. Enrollment requires being 18, or 13-17 with a guardian.
Voicemail: Mormon Wives Overproduction
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  • Key Takeaway: The rapid production schedule of ‘Mormon Wives’ seasons, especially the delayed reunion filming, causes confusion and suggests the cast is becoming overexposed.
  • Summary: The caller argues that filming a reunion for Season 3 months after filming ended, while Season 4 is already underway, makes the reunion pointless as the drama has already been resolved on the next season. The hosts agreed that the timing of the reunion is confusing and illogical compared to standard reality show formats like ‘Housewives.’ They suggested skipping the reunion entirely if seasons are being pumped out so quickly.
Episode Wrap Up and Future Content
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  • Key Takeaway: The ‘Chicks in the Office’ team is releasing an exciting interview on Friday and a ‘Best of 2025’ recap episode on Monday.
  • Summary: The hosts concluded the Pop Corner segment and thanked listeners for calling in with hot takes. They promoted upcoming content, including a highly anticipated interview scheduled for Friday. The following Monday will feature a review of their favorite moments from 2025.