Chicks in the Office

DWTS Wicked Night Recap + Love Island's Casey O'Gorman & Tom Clare Interview

October 24, 2025

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  • The hosts provided a detailed recap of the "Dancing with the Stars" Wicked Night, noting that John M. Chu was a fantastic guest judge, though his score for Alex Earl caused online discourse. 
  • The hosts and guests discussed the intense online discourse surrounding Whitney and Mark's high scores, attributing some viewer frustration to the technical nature of dances like the Quickstep. 
  • Love Island's Casey O'Gorman and Tom Clare shared details about their post-show relationship status, Tom's secret proposal to Molly, and their experiences on 'Love Island Games,' including Tom's admission that money was a factor in his return. 
  • Casey O'Gorman and Tom Clare discussed the difference in *Love Island* casting methods between the UK (in-person scouting) and the US (DMs/interviews), and both expressed interest in appearing on *The Traitors*. 
  • Casey and Tom shared amusing anecdotes about their initial impressions of each other on *Love Island* and the intense scrutiny of UK tabloid press, highlighted by a specific paparazzi photo from Ibiza. 
  • The guests and hosts agreed that social media presence is crucial for reality stars, with Casey noting he prefers not to date another influencer, while Tom and Molly share their relationship publicly to satisfy fan demand. 

Segments

Intro and Ad Reads
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(00:00:00)
  • Key Takeaway: The episode is pre-recorded due to upcoming tour dates, featuring a ‘DWTS Wicked Night Recap’ and an interview with Love Island’s Casey and Tom.
  • Summary: The episode begins with sponsor mentions for Bombas and Armani Beauty, setting the stage for the main content. The hosts confirm they are recording ahead of their Fall Tour shows in DC. The episode structure includes the ‘DWTS Wicked Night Recap,’ an interview with Casey O’Gorman and Tom Clare, and a game of trivia.
DWTS Wicked Night Recap
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(00:06:15)
  • Key Takeaway: The Wicked Night theme exceeded expectations, with John M. Chu serving as an excellent guest judge who gave Alex Earl an 8, sparking debate.
  • Summary: The hosts praised the execution of the ‘Wicked Night’ theme, noting the music followed the show’s chronological order. John M. Chu’s guest judging was well-received, although his score of an 8 for Alex Earl was considered low by some viewers compared to other scores. The discussion highlighted that Whitney and Mark received the first 10s, leading to online backlash regarding perceived favoritism.
Contestant Performance Analysis
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(00:11:27)
  • Key Takeaway: Elaine’s performance was deemed magical and tear-jerking, while Jordan and Ezra received well-deserved 10s for incorporating online references.
  • Summary: Elaine’s routine was emotionally powerful, though some felt it lacked sufficient dancing time at the end due to the emotional moment. Jordan and Ezra earned 10s after hilariously incorporating the ‘Ariana and Cynthia finger hold’ into their dance. Scott and Riley were eliminated, which the hosts felt was predictable as their performances were sometimes forgettable compared to others.
Andy’s Continued Presence
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(00:14:00)
  • Key Takeaway: Andy’s continued survival over more technically proficient dancers like Elaine and Danielle is becoming a significant problem for the competition’s integrity.
  • Summary: The hosts acknowledged that while Andy is entertaining, his continued presence over stronger dancers like Elaine and Danielle will become a major issue if he advances further. Jen’s perceived lack of challenging choreography and the criticism landing on her new pro, Andy, is noted as difficult for her. Dylan’s energetic but sometimes uncontrolled hip movements were also mentioned during the recap.
Whitney’s Confidence and Fan Backlash
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(00:22:23)
  • Key Takeaway: Viewers’ negative reactions toward Whitney stem from her high confidence and performance quality, leading some to spitefully vote against her.
  • Summary: The hosts believe people dislike Whitney because she is confident and knows she is good, leading to accusations of special treatment due to her partnership with Mark. They argue that looking at the camera is necessary as they are performing for the home audience. The consensus is that Whitney deserves a spot in the finale regardless of viewer spite.
Love Island Guests Arrive
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(00:26:08)
  • Key Takeaway: Casey and Tom visited the studio after a busy New York City weekend, confirming Casey and Gabby’s relationship did not work out post-show.
  • Summary: Casey and Tom joined the hosts live in the studio, admitting to being slightly hungover from their weekend activities. Casey confirmed that her relationship with Gabby from ‘Love Island’ ended because integrating their outside lifestyles proved difficult, emphasizing there was no cheating involved. Tom contrasted this by noting his relationship with Molly has gone from strength to strength, leading to their engagement.
Love Island Games & Villa Differences
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(00:30:22)
  • Key Takeaway: Casey returned for ‘Love Island Games’ primarily for the set payment, while Tom noted the Fiji villa for ‘Games’ was superior to the Cape Town villa.
  • Summary: Casey stated he would not return to the show again unless offered a significant, non-standard payment, feeling he completed his run after winning the UK version. Tom mentioned that the Fiji villa for ‘Love Island Games’ was bigger and featured amenities like a speakeasy, contrasting with the Cape Town villa which he considers his second home.
Celebrity Sightings and Fan Encounters
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  • Key Takeaway: Casey and Tom had an unexpected encounter with Bradley Cooper in New York City, who recognized Casey from ‘Love Island’ UK All-Stars.
  • Summary: Casey recounted approaching Bradley Cooper for a photo, only for the actor to recognize him from ‘Love Island’ and compliment his performance. The guests noted that Americans recognize UK reality stars more readily than people do in London, where residents are accustomed to celebrities. They also shared a story about fans tracking their location via Snapchat notifications on the Brooklyn Bridge.
Proposal Planning Details
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(00:44:06)
  • Key Takeaway: Tom planned his Dubai proposal to Molly for seven months in complete secrecy, utilizing Molly’s best friend for ring size and details.
  • Summary: Tom successfully kept the proposal a secret, which is unusual for Molly, who typically anticipates his surprises. He coordinated the event with about 12 people via a WhatsApp group in Dubai while Molly was getting her hair done. They are now planning an abroad wedding and are currently focused on selling their house.
Pre-Love Island Careers
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(00:48:45)
  • Key Takeaway: Tom was playing soccer (football) before Love Island, while Casey was scouted in person at a London bar after working in recruitment.
  • Summary: Tom played soccer professionally before entering the villa, whereas Casey worked in recruitment before being approached by a casting scout in a bar. Casey noted that in-person scouting is common in the UK, unlike the DM approach often used in the US. Casey also mentioned that he initially found Tom irritating in the villa, but they are now best friends despite being polar opposites.
Love Island Casting Methods
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(00:49:14)
  • Key Takeaway: UK reality TV casting heavily relies on in-person scouting in social hotspots, unlike the US method which favors DMs and interviews.
  • Summary: In-person scouting is common in the UK for shows like Love Island, where producers look for people in popular spots frequented by those in their 20s. This method is considered superior to DMs or interviews because it reveals how individuals behave naturally. Casey O’Gorman confirmed his initial contact for the show was via DM.
Initial Impressions & Age Impact
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  • Key Takeaway: Casey O’Gorman initially found Tom Clare irritating, and both noted that age significantly impacts one’s experience on reality television.
  • Summary: Casey initially disliked Tom, finding him irritating, but they became best friends, highlighting how relationships can evolve post-show. Casey was 26 and Tom was 23 during their first season, suggesting that being 23 is quite young for the experience. Casey felt he would have only lasted two days on the show if he had participated at age 23.
Future Reality TV Aspirations
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(01:05:02)
  • Key Takeaway: Both Casey and Tom expressed a strong desire to participate in more television shows, specifically mentioning The Traitors and Strictly Come Dancing (the UK equivalent of Dancing with the Stars).
  • Summary: Casey loves being on TV and would definitely do other shows, naming The Traitors as a preference. He also mentioned wanting to do Strictly Come Dancing, despite admitting he cannot dance. Casey prefers the US version of The Traitors due to potentially higher chances of being cast, noting that UK Islanders like Ekin-Su have already appeared on the US version.
Strictly Come Dancing Popularity
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  • Key Takeaway: The US version, Dancing with the Stars, has recently experienced an explosion in popularity on platforms like TikTok, partly due to casting influencers like Alex Earl and former Bachelor Joey.
  • Summary: Strictly Come Dancing (UK) is believed to have preceded Dancing with the Stars in the US. While Dancing with the Stars historically appealed to an older demographic, it has recently become huge on TikTok. The casting of figures like Joey from The Bachelor and Ariana Madix contributed to this renewed interest.
Tabloid Culture Comparison
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  • Key Takeaway: UK tabloids like The Sun are often viewed as clickbait, whereas US outlets like TMZ are generally considered highly accurate, making major errors by TMZ very notable.
  • Summary: The UK press, particularly The Sun, is often perceived as relying on clickbait headlines. In contrast, TMZ is generally accurate, meaning when they report something incorrectly, it is considered a major mistake. The hosts noted that US coverage tends to die down faster than UK coverage, which can generate 18 articles from a single picture.
Ibiza Paparazzi Story
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  • Key Takeaway: Tom Clare was photographed by a paparazzi on a cliff while on a boat trip in Ibiza, leading to a highly descriptive tabloid headline about him sucking a mystery girl’s toes.
  • Summary: While on a boat trip in Ibiza with Casey, Tom was photographed by a hidden paparazzi on a cliff overlooking the ocean. The resulting headline from The Sun detailed Tom sucking a mystery girl’s toes after his split from Sammy. The guests were shocked by the detail and proximity of the photographer, who must have used extreme zoom lenses.
Pronunciation Debate: Ibiza
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(01:08:03)
  • Key Takeaway: In the UK, the correct pronunciation of the Spanish island is ‘Ibiza,’ and calling it ‘a biza’ is considered a major faux pas by locals.
  • Summary: Casey confirmed that the correct pronunciation is ‘Ibiza,’ not ‘a biza.’ He recounted an experience where hairdressers in the location made fun of an American visitor for using the incorrect pronunciation. Both Casey and Tom confirmed that ‘Ibiza’ or ‘Ibiza’ are acceptable, but ‘a biza’ is not.
Dating Life & Social Media Balance
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  • Key Takeaway: Tom Clare and Molly manage their public relationship by sharing content that fans want (like engagement news) while keeping private moments sacred, whereas Casey prefers to keep future relationships private unless the partner is willing to be on TikTok.
  • Summary: Tom and Molly share their journey because fans followed them for it, balancing public sharing with private moments. Casey stated that if he dates someone, it depends on whether they want to be involved in his TikTok content. He also expressed a desire not to date another influencer because past relationships in that sphere have not worked out.
Beat Ria & Fran Game 194
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  • Key Takeaway: Rhea and Fran defeated guests Erin and Amelia 8-4 in Beat Ria & Fran Game 194, with key correct answers including Amy Poehler’s roles and the band behind Taylor Swift’s ‘Two is Better Than One.’
  • Summary: Rhea and Fran won the game 8-4 against Erin and Amelia, who bonded over Harry Styles. The tie-breaker movie was Her, which scored 95% on Rotten Tomatoes, giving Rhea and Fran the first point. Erin and Amelia missed a Harry Potter question about Sirius Black borrowing Hagrid’s motorbike.