Chicks in the Office

The VS Fashion Show Delivered + BIP's Andrew Spencer & Alexe Godin Interview

October 17, 2025

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  • The hosts and guests discussed the second iteration of the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show, agreeing it was significantly better than the previous year despite poor advertising and an unusual 7 p.m. start time. 
  • Andrew Spencer and Alexe Godin shared that their connection on *Bachelor in Paradise* was accelerated by the show's new format, which included activities, shared sleeping arrangements, and the element of money, leading to more 'raw feelings' and less anxiety-driven drama than previous seasons. 
  • The hosts recounted a past incident where they mistakenly hyped up a false spoiler about Zach Shallcross's season of *The Bachelor*, leading to embarrassment and a self-imposed hiatus from the spoiler game. 
  • The Bachelor Nation friend group is very close-knit, with Andrew and Alexe fitting in easily, despite online commentary about relationship dynamics like those involving Susie and Justin. 
  • The conversation heavily featured discussions about the dynamics of Bachelor Nation friendships, the perceived toxicity of Conrad from *The Summer I Turned Pretty*, and the controversial nature of leg-lengthening surgery seen in pop culture and medical dramas. 
  • The conversation shifted from discussing movie franchises (like the *Fast & Furious* series and *Lord of the Rings*) to critiquing the trend of constant remakes in Hollywood, exemplified by the upcoming *Harry Potter* series. 
  • The segment concluded with a highly competitive game of 'Beat Ria & Fran' (Game 193) against guests Kelly Anne and Colleen, which ultimately went into overtime and was won by Ria and Fran. 

Segments

Weekend Plans and Closet Refresh
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  • Key Takeaway: One host is looking forward to a rare, completely free weekend at home to switch out their closet for the fall season.
  • Summary: The hosts are heading into the weekend, with one looking forward to having zero plans and staying home for the first time since summer began. This time will be used to transition their wardrobe to include sweaters due to the recent drop in temperature to 45 degrees. This is their last weekend at home before starting their tour for the next few weeks.
TV Show Catch-up: Black Rabbit & Love is Blind
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  • Key Takeaway: The hosts plan to watch Fast Five and Black Rabbit over the weekend, with the latter being highly engaging, and they discussed the shocking breakup between Nick and his partner on the latest Love is Blind episodes.
  • Summary: One host plans to watch Fast Five and is starting Black Rabbit, which is described as very good and immediately engaging, prompting the other host to catch up before Monday’s discussion. They were shocked by Nick’s decision not to go to the altar on Love is Blind, noting the editing made his sudden change of heart seem abrupt after showing him seemingly invested. Joe’s status on Love is Blind is also a point of discussion, though one host is behind and unaware of the outcome.
Upcoming Tour and Meet and Greet
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  • Key Takeaway: The Chicks in the Office Fall Tour kicks off next week in D.C., featuring Caitlin Bristow as the first guest, and a Truly meet and greet is scheduled the night before the show.
  • Summary: The tour starts next week in D.C., and tickets are still available for purchase. The night before the D.C. show, October 22nd at 6 p.m. at Franklin Hall, the hosts will hold a meet and greet sponsored by Truly. Caitlin Bristow has been announced as the first guest for the D.C. live show.
Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show Review
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  • Key Takeaway: The 2023 Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show was considered exponentially better than the previous year, though marketing efforts were poor, leading many people to be unaware it was airing.
  • Summary: The second annual return of the Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show was viewed as a success, finding a better ‘sweet spot’ than the first year. A major criticism was the lack of advertising, causing many listeners to miss the Wednesday night event, which also started at the unusual time of 7 p.m. The return of ‘bouncy blowout’ hair was welcomed over last year’s slick backs, and performers like Karol G were highly praised.
Model Representation and Sarah Miller’s Look
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  • Key Takeaway: The show featured a more inclusive casting of influencers alongside supermodels, but the look worn by Sarah Miller on the red carpet was deemed so exceptional that she should have been walking in the show.
  • Summary: The casting shift towards influencers is seen as an effort to make the show more accessible, though some professional models expressed frustration over the selection process. The look Sarah Miller wore on the red carpet was universally praised as unbelievable, leading the hosts to insist she should have been featured in the runway show. Bella Hadid’s struggle with heavy wings (reportedly 60 pounds) highlighted the physical difficulty of the elaborate costumes.
BIP Guests Andrew & Alexe Interview Kickoff
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  • Key Takeaway: Andrew Spencer and Alexe Godin joined the podcast for the first time, with Andrew having previously appeared only at a live show, and they immediately addressed Andrew’s controversial take on The Summer I Turned Pretty.
  • Summary: Andrew and Alexe expressed excitement to be on the podcast, noting that the hosts’ content frequently appears on their feeds. Andrew admitted he was initially hesitant to join the show to avoid ‘ruining’ his positive perception of the hosts, but he and Alexe have lived up to the hype. The conversation is set to cover their Bachelor in Paradise journey and Andrew’s strong opinions on TV shows.
BIP Connection & Intimacy
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  • Key Takeaway: Bachelor in Paradise provided an ideal environment for forming relationships due to lack of distractions and available time for intimacy.
  • Summary: The structure of Bachelor in Paradise was deemed the best version for finding a partner because contestants had time and activities without outside distractions. Contestants managed intimacy by swapping roommates, with Alexe being Spencer’s roommate and vice versa for some others. This logistical arrangement allowed couples to utilize private time effectively.
Integrating into Friend Group
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  • Key Takeaway: Alexe Godin quickly integrated into Andrew Spencer’s existing Bachelor friend group, finding the dynamic fun and fitting in well.
  • Summary: Despite initial online concerns about Greg potentially losing his partner, Alexe feels she fits in seamlessly with the established friend group, even joking about the dynamic feeling like a ’throuple.’ Andrew and Greg have maintained a unique relationship dynamic where they sometimes swap roles (e.g., one being ’the girl’ when the other is in a relationship). The friends maintain strong bonds, often communicating daily.
Handling Public Scrutiny
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  • Key Takeaway: Bachelor Nation members generally ignore public commentary regarding complex relationship dynamics, relying on pre-existing amicable friendships.
  • Summary: When posting content that shows people like Susie, Justin, and Greg hanging out, the group largely ignores the resulting comments about their past situations. Alexe notes that she, Justin, and Susie were friends before the dating began, leading to amicable situations now. In Bachelor Nation, once people are together, they focus on the present moment rather than past drama, though the community can be ‘clicky.’
Friendship Loyalty and Location Sharing
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  • Key Takeaway: True friendships in Bachelor Nation are built on shared trauma and deep personal connection, contrasting with transactional relationships.
  • Summary: Andrew maintains close friendships with his season mates because they share a ‘shared trauma’ and have integrated into his family life, making their bond feel like brotherhood rather than just reality TV connections. The hosts reveal a general aversion to sharing locations with friends indefinitely, contrasting with Andrew’s close communication with Greg, who calls him daily. Location sharing is typically reserved for partners or for safety reasons during travel.
Chicks in the Office Anniversary
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  • Key Takeaway: Chicks in the Office is approaching its 900th episode, having started in July 2017, marking over eight years of partnership.
  • Summary: Andrew and Alexe have been working together for eight years, with Chicks in the Office officially starting in July 2017. They are currently near their 900th episode, with the hosts noting they prefer the episode count of 899 as it sounds like a ‘Domino’s Deal.’ They are considering a special celebration for the 1000th episode.
The Goldens’ Role on BIP
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  • Key Takeaway: The Goldens (Keith and Kathy) provided parental warmth and confirmation to the Bachelor in Paradise contestants, especially Andrew and Alexe.
  • Summary: The Goldens were appreciated for offering wise, parental advice and confirmation, making the experience feel like being around family in the kitchen. Andrew credits them with helping them win a challenge, and they observed Andrew’s genuine feelings for Alexe. The contestants enjoyed their company so much that they were sad when the Goldens were eventually on the chopping block.
Sean’s Controversial Reunion Moment
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  • Key Takeaway: Sean’s final moment at the reunion was perceived as tasteless and going too far, especially concerning Dale, as the game aspect was over.
  • Summary: The moment was described as going out with a bang but ultimately being ’tactless’ because the competitive game element of the show was finished. The speakers felt the conversation should have been addressed privately with Dale first, allowing Dale to make his own decision rather than involving the whole world publicly. Overall, the Bachelor in Paradise experience was deemed great despite ups and downs.
BIP Proposal Emphasis
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  • Key Takeaway: The Bachelor in Paradise season felt less focused on proposals because the emphasis was heavily placed on the games and drama.
  • Summary: Andrew felt there was less emphasis on proposals because the focus shifted to the games, which led to less development of the romantic stories on screen. When Spencer proposed, it felt surprising because the narrative had prioritized other elements. The structure allowed for post-show proposals, as couples were still given the chance to get engaged after the finale.
Taking the Money Debate
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  • Key Takeaway: Alexe believes she should have taken the money from Bachelor in Paradise to become the next Bachelor, but Andrew was happy with the outcome.
  • Summary: Alexe stated that looking back, she feels she would have looked good taking the money and potentially becoming the next Bachelor. Andrew was happy with the actual ending, stating he didn’t want to be rejected or not chosen, and that the money was a nice chunk to pay off student loans. They agreed that if she had taken the money, the ideal movie plot would have been her taking it and him waiting for her.
The Wrong Way Movie Review
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  • Key Takeaway: The hosts generally found The Wrong Way to be a bad movie with cringey acting, though Alexe enjoyed it as a ‘reality TV movie.’
  • Summary: The movie was described as feeling like reality TV turned into a film, with the acting being terrible initially, though Alexe was bought in midway. Fran disliked the execution, particularly the ’too perfect’ abs of the male lead, while Alexe enjoyed the parts where the main character seemed to be using the situation for personal gain (like going to Paris). The hot tub fall scene was cited as a funny moment.
The Summer I Turned Pretty Takes
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  • Key Takeaway: Alexe strongly defends Jeremiah Fisher, arguing Conrad Fisher is the more toxic brother due to poor communication and self-absorption.
  • Summary: Alexe hates Jeremiah the least and believes he is not a cheater, arguing his arc was ruined by the show making him cheat, which is uncharacteristic of his personality. She views Conrad as the most toxic man, tired of women being drawn to ‘broken’ men needing therapy, noting Conrad never communicated his feelings clearly. Alexe points out that Jeremiah always communicated, whereas Conrad failed to do so, especially when driving Belly to see him kissing Jeremiah’s car.
Height Surgery Discussion
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  • Key Takeaway: The procedure of leg-lengthening surgery is a current hot topic in media, involving breaking leg bones and costing hundreds of thousands of dollars.
  • Summary: The procedure involves breaking leg bones and using internal rods to lengthen them, costing between $75,000 and over $200,000 depending on the desired height increase. The surgery carries significant risks, including infection, as evidenced by a plot point on Chicago Med. The procedure results in disproportionate body parts, as only the legs are lengthened, leading to potential issues like an individual going from 5'11" to 6'6".
Movie Franchise Longevity Debate
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  • Key Takeaway: The speakers express fatigue with long-running movie franchises, noting they often lose interest after the third or fourth installment, citing the Fast & Furious series as an example.
  • Summary: The speakers debate the quality of sequels, suggesting they often lose engagement after the initial entries, specifically mentioning that the third Fast & Furious movie felt like ‘Tokyo Drift without Paul Walker or Vin Diesel.’ They also contrast this with Game of Thrones, which they considered one of the best TV shows ever, despite its length.
Critique of Hollywood Remakes
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  • Key Takeaway: The proliferation of remakes, such as the upcoming Harry Potter series, is attributed to studios prioritizing money over creating original storylines, especially when source material is already written.
  • Summary: The hosts question the necessity of remaking established properties like Harry Potter when there are unexplored narrative avenues, such as Voldemort’s origin story. They note that studios recycle content because it is a guaranteed money-maker, contrasting this with the creative freedom seen in successful villain-focused spin-offs like The Penguin.
New Rom-Com Trailer Discussion
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  • Key Takeaway: A new rom-com titled Eternity, starring Miles Teller and Elizabeth Olsen, is generating positive early buzz and is set for an August 24th release.
  • Summary: The hosts express excitement for the upcoming rom-com Eternity, which involves characters choosing their eternal partner in the afterlife. The film already holds an 82% score on Rotten Tomatoes, leading the hosts to hope it lives up to the hype, unlike a poorly received film starring Margot Robbie and Colin Farrell.
Andrew & Alexe Future Plans
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  • Key Takeaway: Alexe Godin plans to move to Chicago next year, ideally after spending a year experiencing life in New York City, as a compromise location for her and Andrew Spencer.
  • Summary: Andrew Spencer expressed a desire to move to New York City, but Alexe noted that living there is different from visiting, suggesting a year in NYC first. Their long-term plan involves moving to Chicago, which they view as a ‘happy medium’ city, though they acknowledge Chicago is also expensive and cold.
Beat Ria & Fran Game 193
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  • Key Takeaway: The ‘Beat Ria & Fran’ game against guests Kelly Anne and Colleen resulted in a tie (6-6) after the initial 15 questions, forcing the game into an overtime round.
  • Summary: The game format involved 15 questions with a steal opportunity for wrong answers, starting with a Rotten Tomatoes score guess for the movie Materialist, which scored 78%. The game was highly competitive, with the score tied at 5-5 before the final question of the main round sent it into overtime.
Overtime Game Conclusion
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  • Key Takeaway: Ria and Fran won the overtime round of ‘Beat Ria & Fran’ after Kelly Anne and Colleen missed the final question regarding Ellen DeGeneres’s closing sign-off phrase.
  • Summary: The overtime round consisted of three questions, with Ria and Fran taking the lead after Kelly Anne and Colleen could not name the love interests in The Change Up. The final question asked for Ellen DeGeneres’s closing line, which was confirmed to be ‘Be kind to one another,’ securing the win for Ria and Fran.